> On 16 Mar 2016, at 2:27 PM, Paul Wouters <p...@nohats.ca> wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> Or perhaps we need the IKEv1 considered harmful draft /
>> ikev1-diediediediedie... 
> 
> I don't think that will help. I've seen how reluctant people are to change 
> their 10 year old working VPN. 
> 
> IKEv1 is dying pretty quickly now, thanks to mobile phones.

Really?  Granted, it’s been a couple of years since I’ve checked the VPN 
capabilities of an iPhone, but I remember it having L2TP (using IKEv1) and 
XAuth (A Cisco extension to IKEv1). We have some people from Apple in the 
working group who are talking about IKEv2 on the phone, but I don’t think 
they’re removing the support for L2TP or XAuth.

Android IIRC also has the L2TP with IKEv1. Not sure what else.

Windows Mobile?  You can add your own, or you have the usual Windows PPTP, L2TP 
(again with IKEv1) and IKEv2.

Who’s killing IKEv1?

Yoav

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