Hi Michael,

>     > Dynamic IPsec PMTU PLPMTUD - Shibu Piriyath, Ron Bonica
>     > 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/101/materials/slides-101-ipsecme-packetization-layer-path-mtu-
> discovery-01
> 
>     > Problem: IPsec Tunnel has an PMTU as any other tunnel.
>     > Solution in Transport Area: Inband Path discovery
> 
> I spoke to Ron afterwards, and I'm very enthusiatic about getting PLPMTUD
> widely deployed.  We didn't get to this slides, so we didn't figure
> out what he needs. Slides talk about an IP-level probe that IPsec
> encapsulators can use to get estimate for tunnel inner MTU.

Why IKE messages cannot be used for this purpose?

Regards,
Valery.

> But, if we can get PLMTUD deployed for all traffic, then the end-nodes can
> do appropriate PMTU probing and can figure out what the inner MTU is.
> i.e. just get everyone to enable plpmtu (4821). It's a knob on most
> systems, which has been left in the off state because of lack of evidence
> that it isn't harmful.
> 
> There seems to be some sticking points among the high-speed about CDNs:
> they hate all PMTUD as it screws with tx scheduling into hardware.
> (TCP segment offload issues)
> 
> So they just use 1280 is what I was told.  That's good for the network, but
> it removes them as strong allies for getting PLPMTUD enabled by default
> everywhere.   It would be nice if we could get a BCP out of them. Such
> BCP could also bless PLPMTUD for everyone else.  I was pushing for this
> with RFC8200/STD86 but there was insufficient evidence of deployment.
> 
> --
> Michael Richardson <[email protected]>, Sandelman Software Works
>  -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-
> 
> 


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