None of this seems related to ipsec and things should be discussed elsewhere..

If there is a component related to IKE or IPsec, please clarify as your list 
archive or the draft you link to provide information showing this to be on 
topic here.

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> On Aug 10, 2018, at 10:18, Behcet Sarikaya <> wrote:
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> Purpose:
>  In IdLoc protocols like LISP, ILA, etc.  separation between (fixed)
> Identifier and (dynamic) Location is proposed to find optimum path for data
> packets to/from moving devices
> The threats against privacy in IdLoc protocols include
> location privacy where if a third party can at any time determine the IP
> location of some identifier, then the device can at one point be IP
> geolocated and
> movement privacy where if a third party can determine that an identifier
> has changed locator(s) at time T, then even without knowing the
> particular locators
> before and after, it can correlate this movement event with other
> information to create a binding between the identifier and a person.
> Privacy and security work is needed both in control and data plane
> There is an existing draft
> draft-nordmark-id-loc-privacy-00.txt that is expected to serve as a
> starting point.
> The work is expected to clear the way for a wider acceptance/deployment
> of IdLoc protocol. This may open new application areas such as in future
> mobile networks.
> In future mobile networks more efficient differentiation of packet
> handling according to specific service demands (QoS) are expected. Traditional
> tunneling and encapsulation between IP addresses (= Id and/or Loc) have
> disadvantages
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