On 02/13/2014 12:23 PM, James Small wrote:
Interested in what you’re using to send/receive SMTP over IPv6:

A) Using postfix from Venema

B) I run my own

I have been interested in the assertion that we cannot do SMTP on IPv6 because there are no reliable methods of doing spam prevention. So ever since this message came through (and the discussion in the ensuing thread) I've been taking a closer look at what's going on with my system. I use a combination of the "typical" anti-spam measures; reject invalid helo, greylisting, zen from spamhaus, and of course spamassassin. Since I run my own server and I'm more concerned about false positives I actually run the filters a little loose, which means I get about 10 or so messages that slip by per day. Those are usually caught by thunderbird. I also review the spam messages that get through the network-based filters and are tagged by spamassassin.

I say all that to say this. Not counting all the messages that were rejected before I saw them (which by definition are successfully spam filtered whether they are IPv6 or IPv4) in the six days I've been watching carefully there were a total of 3 spam messages that went from the originating system to the MX host over IPv6. That's out of roughly 180 messages total. Of those 3, 2 of them were caught by spamassassin on my server, so they were successfully filtered by my existing solution. The other message would have been caught on my system if my system was the direct destination. It was instead sent to an alias maintained by someone else, which forwards to me. Because my filters are very loose for that system, this message came through, although it was caught by thunderbird.

My point is that all the hooha about "We can't do mail over IPv6 because we can't do IP address reputation" seems to be nonsense. There are plenty of ways to do spam filtering that don't involve keeping a log of every single IP address that sends spam.

It's probably also worth pointing out that I actually get the substantial majority of my e-mail over IPv6 nowadays, although the vast majority of my e-mail is list traffic from technically oriented mailing lists, so that traffic pattern fits.

I hope this information is useful.

Doug

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