Hi,

Thanks Jordi.  And yes, hindsight is always easy!

It would be nice to have a survey report document online for anyone to read, to 
complement various powerpoint decks you’ve used.

Amazing to get such a large response - well done :)

Tim 

> On 20 Sep 2016, at 14:49, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.pa...@consulintel.es> 
> wrote:
> 
> No, didn’t included anything about security, unfortunately (now I realize 
> having missed it !) I will consider upgrading the actual questions or making 
> a specific one related to security …
> 
> I’ve got already over 1.100 responses, and I’m waiting for Korean ISPs to 
> start responding … I think is the only country which didn’t responded at all.
> 
> I did a quick presentation about the data both in the last v6ops and IEPG 
> meetings. Will do a new presentation at the next LACNIC meeting and hopefully 
> at the next RIPE one.
> 
> Regards,
> Jordi
> 
> 
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: <ipv6-ops-bounces+jordi.palet=consulintel...@lists.cluenet.de> en nombre 
> de Tim Chown <tim.ch...@jisc.ac.uk>
> Responder a: <tim.ch...@jisc.ac.uk>
> Fecha: martes, 20 de septiembre de 2016, 14:50
> Para: Benedikt Stockebrand <b...@stepladder-it.com>, Jordi Palet Martinez 
> <jordi.pa...@consulintel.es>
> CC: IPv6 Ops list <ipv6-ops@lists.cluenet.de>, "Anfinsen, Ragnar" 
> <ragnar.anfin...@altibox.no>
> Asunto: Re: CPE Residential IPv6 Security Poll
> 
>    Hi,
> 
>    Was this one of the questions asked in Jordi’s survey?  I’m not sure I’ve 
> seen the results published as yet, but he got a fantastic level of response 
> (over 200 iirc)… Jordi? :)
> 
>    Tim 
> 
>> On 20 Sep 2016, at 13:44, Benedikt Stockebrand <b...@stepladder-it.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ragnar and list,
>> 
>> as far as I can tell, little has changed at least in Germany since our
>> last discussion on this (except that I've since sobered up again:-)
>> 
>> I guess you won't be surprised that I still share the same opinion as
>> Ted:-)
>> 
>> So far all I've consciously seen on consumer CPEs is "per default, allow
>> all outbound, block all inbound".  I'm not sure if there are any ultra
>> cheap CPEs out that don't even let users configure inbound rules, but
>> I've never had the need to deal with anything like that.
>> 
>> However, one rather interesting thing has changed here: Since August
>> this year, ISPs can by law no longer force their customers in Germany to
>> use the CPE they provide.  The implications here are yet to appear, but
>> one possible effect might be that the ISPs move away from the
>> all-features-you-never-wanted-plus-some-extra CPEs they so far forced on
>> their customers to minimalistic devices they can just manage via TR-069
>> or similar (reaching a setup similar ot the old NT1/NT2 split with ISDN
>> in Europe), eventually leaving the filtering to the end user again.
>> 
>> With business customers the range obviously goes from "consumer grade is
>> good enough so why use anything else" for small businesses to dark fiber
>> for customers running their own AS.
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>>   Benedikt
>> 
>> -- 
>> Benedikt Stockebrand,                   Stepladder IT Training+Consulting
>> Dipl.-Inform.                           http://www.stepladder-it.com/
>> 
>>         Business Grade IPv6 --- Consulting, Training, Projects
>> 
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>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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