Hi Jordi,

Most of the testing requests that we have received for wired CPEs lately
have been MAP based.   We are aware of a couple ISPs considering XLAT464,
but I'm not aware of it being used in production.

For wireless XLAT464 makes sense, even for fixed wireless.

~Tim

On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 12:31 PM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ipv6-wg <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Tim,
>
>
>
> I understand that even if in the IETF we decide not to go for that, as we
> know that the participation in IETF from operators is not as good as we
> wish, we as a different community can have a totally different perspective.
>
>
>
> If we don’t want to have full support of the RFC8585, at least we must
> mandate the 464XLAT section. The reason is clear: it is the only possible
> way in mobile, and if you want to support “hybrid CPEs” (those that provide
> for example a GPON WAN or Ethernet WAN + USB dongle for 3-5G) the easier
> way is to provide 464XLAT. It is also a matter of subscriber numbers in one
> technology vs all the others together.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Jordi
>
> @jordipalet
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> El 24/11/21 18:26, "ipv6-wg en nombre de Timothy Winters" <
> [email protected] en nombre de [email protected]> escribió:
>
>
>
> Hi Jordi,
>
>
>
> I see you also brought up on the v6ops list.   Let's see what the operator
> community has to say about this topic.
>
>
>
> I'm not opposed to changing this, but I'm also aware that's CPEs rarely
> support all the mechanisms listed in that RFC.
>
>
>
> ~Tim
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 11:58 AM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ipv6-wg <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Tim, all,
>
> I've reviewed the latest version of the document and in general I agree.
> However, today is unacceptable that a CPE doesn't support IPv6-only +
> IPv4aaS, so RFC8585 must be a must in this type of document.
>
> I think there must be a clear statement on that.
>
> Regards,
> Jordi
> @jordipalet
>
>
>
>
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