Eric,

Take your argument to the people opposing the Hain/Templin draft, because
your point is clearly made in that document.

   Brian

EricLKlein wrote:
> 
> Margaret.Wasserman wrote
> > > I have been speaking to different
> > > companies here in Israel, and the basic answer is that if I
> > > can not have site locals and NAT then I will not move to IPv6.
> 
> > If these people are happy with IPv4 NAT, why would they want
> > to move to IPv6?  They couldn't need more address space (net 10
> > is huge), they obviously don't care about peer-to-peer or
> > end-to-end connectivity outside their organization, I can't
> > imagine that they want to deploy any IPv6-only applications
> > or services...
> 
> Margret, you are correct. The way that one network person put it "if there
> are no local addresses then we will just stay with IPv4 for our secure
> applications, until it is no longer supported."
> 
> This is not the first time that I have heard that someone was willing to
> skip IPv6 because of the percieved pain and security threat that standards
> compliance would entail. But then again these are all people that take
> security and network administration very personal and very seriously, and
> the idea of having the accounts recievable (or worse payable) computer with
> a globaly reachable address scares them to heck.
> 
> To be honest I stated these concerns back in the spring, and I still haven't
> seen anything that would work to convince me that this is not what we as a
> WG are proposing. If someone converts their existing network to a globaly
> unique address range then what is responsible for filtering all of the
> critical addresses from sending or recieving packets from the network over
> the network Interent router? I see this as being moved from the protocol
> level to that of the network technician, who now needs to explicitly deny
> individual addresses (or ranges) rather and explicityl allow the permited
> ranges.
> 
> Eric
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