Hi Erik,
I agree with Jinmei's rephrasing. Both in RFC 2461 and 2461bis the wordings
were sounding little bit confused.
I would request the changing of 2461bis wording as suggested by Jinmei.

Regards
Radhakrishnan
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From: <JINMEI Tatuya / [EMAIL PROTECTED]@C#:H (B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)>
To: "Erik Nordmark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "IPv6 WG" <[email protected]>; "Pekka Savola"
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Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 1:40 AM
Subject: Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:draft-ietf-ipv6-2461bis-01.txt


> Catching up a possibly minor point of an old thread...
>
> >>>>> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:39:15 -0800 (PST),
> >>>>> Erik Nordmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> >> ==> AFAICS, you can remove 'both the Override flag is clear and' here,
> >> because the same result happens if the Override flag is set.
>
> > No. The "but do not update the entry in any other way" does not apply
when the
> > O  flag is set, since in that case the recorded link layer address is
updated.
>
> I'm not sure if this really rejects Pekka's point.  In fact, it seems
> to me Pekka is correct here.  To make it sure, I've cited the related
> part from the draft:
>
>    If the Override flag is clear and the
>    supplied link-layer address differs from that in the cache, then one
>    of two actions takes place: if the state of the entry is REACHABLE,
>    set it to STALE, but do not update the entry in any other way;
>    otherwise, the received advertisement should be ignored and MUST NOT
>    update the cache.  If the Override flag is set, both the Override
>    flag is clear and the supplied link-layer address is the same as that
>    in the cache, or no Target Link-layer address option was supplied,
>    the received advertisement MUST update the Neighbor Cache entry as
>    follows:
> (Section 7.2.5 of draft-ietf-ipv6-2461bis-01.txt)
>
> This awfully complicated block would be clarified as follows (BTW,
> regardless of the result of this small discussion, it would be nice if
> we could make this part more understandable in the 2461bis work):
>
> 1. If the Override flag is clear and the supplied link-layer address
>    differs from that in the cache, then:
>       - if the state of the entry is REACHABLE, set it to STALE, but
>         do not update the entry in any other way;
>       - otherwise, the received advertisement should be ignored and
>         MUST NOT update the cache.
>
> 2. (else) If
>       - the Override flag is set,
>       - both the Override flag is clear and the supplied link-layer
>         address is the same as that in the cache, or
>       - no Target Link-layer address option was supplied,
>    then
>      the received advertisement MUST update the Neighbor Cache entry
>      as follows:
>      [snip]
>
> Pekka talked about the second bullet of case 2, whereas you referred
> to (a part of) the 1st bullet of case 1.  And, in my understanding,
> cases 1 and 2 are mutually exclusive.
>
> JINMEI, Tatuya
> Communication Platform Lab.
> Corporate R&D Center, Toshiba Corp.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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