The failure model in the absense of the link's router(s) are described
in RFC 4943.

In particular, the assumption that all hosts are on-link in the absence
of RA's was deprecated.

Whether there is something more useful that can be done in this case is
future work that the IETF may or may not take on.

- Wes

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On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 08:45:12AM -0400, Thomas Narten wrote:
> Correct, and that is the motivation for 
> draft-ietf-6man-ipv6-subnet-model-02.txt. See Section 3, for example.

That draft completely misses the original point.  This isn't a question
of whether "ifconfig inet6 2001:db8::1/64" 'should be permissible' so
far as the IETF is concerned.  This is a question of what the failure
model should be when DHCPv6 succeeds but the link's router(s) are
unavailable.

Generally speaking, it is astonishing to the user for the model to be a
complete failure of all communications - not just those to external
nodes.

Consequently, implementations choose to provide a prefix with the
address.

It isn't because "they don't understand the subnet model."  They
understand, and it is broken.

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