On Sat, 11 Sep 2010, Fred Baker wrote:
If I may make a humble request - could we get back to work, please?
Good post.
I guess I've been part of the bashing. It's a fine line between saying
that things haven't been done to solve current problems and there is a lot
of improvement to do, and going to far and it turns into bashing. Sorry.
The reason why I get so frustrated is that here I'm sitting with a
deployment model with millions of customers, in a country that is at the
top of the broadband penetration and bw list, and the feeling I'm getting
from people here is not even an acceptance that this is a valid deployment
model. This deployment model is 10 years old, I did my first such
installation in 1999. A lot of development went into this in 2000-2002 to
make it secure with DHCP inspection, STP source guard, the whole
IPv4/ethernet suite. It's been very successful in these markets with the
highest per-customer speeds of any deployment model I'm aware of and at a
end user price of 10/10 ETTH as low as USD10 per month in large
deployments.
"You're doing it wrong, go away".
Doing PPPoE to customers with 100/100 megabit/s ETTH accesses is just not
economically feasable. First of all there aren't CPEs that are fast enough
and the tunnel termination router gets really expensive because instead of
a fairly cheap L3 switch and "always on" (DHCP only), you have to
complicate things a lot more for both customers and yourself.
So here we are, 10 years after this was done for IPv4 and it hasn't been
done for IPv6, and that's why IPv6 is undeployable in these networks, and
it seems quite a lot of people don't even think this is a problem.
Sorry for being frustrated and saying things I perhaps shouldn't, but I
hope the above might explain a few things.
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Mikael Abrahamsson email: [email protected]
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