On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:03:13 -0700 Doug Barton <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 9/21/2010 4:16 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > > we already have an IPv6 legacy > > As much as I wish it were otherwise, I don't think there is yet enough > of a deployment at this point to really make this a show-stopper. > Depends on what you define as deployment. Inactive IPv6 code sitting in devices that have left the vendor is deployed IPv6 code - it just hasn't been enabled or encountered an RA. If the ideas in this thread get any legs, it'd be far better if they were called "IPv7" because they're making significant functional changes to IPv6's model of operation that deployed IPv6 code expects. > But even if we do, I don't see any reason we couldn't have a no-ND > solution in a greenfield deployment. > > Even the topic of this sub-thread indicates the disconnect between a > still-large percentage of the operator community and the ND/RA zealots. Why aren't the "still-large percentage of the operator community" not bothering to contribute? Fred Baker posted a working group last call on a draft recently (12th Sept, ipv6-ops, draft-ietf-v6ops-incremental-cgn WGLC) to one of the IPv6 operator mailing lists. I wonder how many operators bothered to read it and contribute? p.s. calling people you don't agree with "zealots" won't win any arguments or convince anybody of the value of your position - it's resorting to name calling, nothing more. > The fact that it keeps coming up over and over should (at some point) be > a sign that people who actually want to deploy IPv6 would like to be > able to do it on a DHCP-only basis. No one is saying yank ND/RA out of > the spec, just make it optional. > They are already optional. Those people who don't want to use ND/RAs are likely to already have knobs to switch them off (Cisco switch off RAs by default on some interface types already) and will have static configuration mechanisms. Regards, Mark. -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPv6 working group mailing list [email protected] Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 --------------------------------------------------------------------
