Ray,

> Suggested text for Section 4.2
>
> s/When the information from the DHCP server goes stale, the policy
> received form the DHCP server should be removed and the default policy
> should be restored./When the information from the DHCP server goes
> stale, the policy received from the DHCP server should be deprecated./

I think the text above looks reasonable.

>
> Optionally add to 4.2. /Which policy should then become active is a
> matter for the local implementation./

I think we do not need this one.

Thanks.


2012/10/22 Ray Hunter <[email protected]>:
> Tim Chown wrote:
>> On 22 Oct 2012, at 10:00, Arifumi Matsumoto <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> 2012/10/17 Ray Hunter <[email protected]>:
>>>> It's really a question of if we need to further clarify what is meant by
>>>> "default policy" in Section 4.2 of draft-ietf-6man-addr-select-opt-06.
>>>>
>>>> Is it the manually configured node-specific default, or the RFC6724 section
>>>> 2.1 default policy table, or is this behaviour simply implementation
>>>> dependent and we should remain silent on an appropriate default?
>>> IMHO, it should be complex to allow to receive distributed policy even
>>> when the policy is manually configured. However, I agree that it should be
>>> out-of-scope of this document. This document should just state the
>>> requirements as in 4.1.
>>
>> The idea in the original discussions was that 'default policy' meant the 
>> default described in the RFC, rather than something local to the site.  
>> After all, the reason a site may be using this DHCPv6 option is to change 
>> that default.
>>
>> Tim
> Not necessarily. In the days of highly mobile nodes, the concept of site
> is going to become vague.
>
> Any manual configured policy on a node is likely to be node specific,
> and not site specific. It might even be that the manual config detects
> network settings before becoming active. e.g. based on local interface
> address ranges. There's plenty examples of this today in e.g. Windows.
>
> The network operator may want to positively hint to the end node that it
> should be running the RFC6724 defined default policy on this network
> (and not some manually configured policy used by this node when
> connected to other networks.) I agree that it is possible to implement
> this behavior by the network operator configuring an explicit DHCPv6
> policy table that matches the RFC6724 default table, and the user
> accepting this policy as defined in 4.1.
>
>
> I believe in symmetry, so handling stale DHCPv6 information should
> really be the reverse process of 4.1
>
> For example, when the DHCPv6 policy expires (due to a timeout, or the
> end node disconnecting from the network), you could get a situation
> where the user has accepted a DHCPv6 distributed policy from network X,
> but they may revert to a connection to another network Y that does not
> support DHCPv6 distributed policy, but does require a manually
> configured policy. Then it would make sense to install the manually
> configured policy. Equally, they may also still be connected to network
> X and it's just the DHCPv6 that has timed out. In which case keeping the
> DHCPv6 policy active might be the correct thing to do. Or they might be
> connected to a completely new network, in which case the RFC6724 default
> is appropriate.
>
> I therefore think it probably should then be left to the end node
> whether the end node should reactivate the manually configured (node
> default) policy, or the RFC6724 defined default policy, or keep the
> DHCPv6 learned policy active even though it has timed out.
>
> Suggested text for Section 4.2
>
> s/When the information from the DHCP server goes stale, the policy
> received form the DHCP server should be removed and the default policy
> should be restored./When the information from the DHCP server goes
> stale, the policy received from the DHCP server should be deprecated./
>
> Optionally add to 4.2. /Which policy should then become active is a
> matter for the local implementation./
>
> regards,
> RayH
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