Le 2012-12-12 à 17:12, Jouni Korhonen <[email protected]> a écrit :

> 
> Remi,
> 
> 
> On Dec 12, 2012, at 3:29 PM, Rémi Després <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Jouni,
>> 
>> 
>> 2012-12-12 10:04, Jouni Korhonen <[email protected]> :
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 8, 2012, at 2:14 AM, Suresh Krishnan <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> The 4rd draft (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-softwire-4rd-04)
>>>> describes a solution for providing IPv4 connectivity over IPv6. The
>>>> draft describes the method for mapping 4rd IPv4 addresses to 4rd IPv6
>>>> Addresses. It uses a 4rd specific mark called the V octet in the first 8
>>> 
>>> V-octet was AFAIR first time discussed within the Softwire MAP design team 
>>> and I had/expressed my concerns already that time. My argumentation was that
>>> we cannot just redefine the u & g bit use without actually having it 
>>> verified
>>> against and reflected in RFC4291. Glad to see it happening now ;)
>>> 
>>> IMHO the current language in RFC4291 does not give enough freedom to use
>>> u=g=1, since such combination is not specifically left unused/reserved
>>> (although u=g=1 makes no sense for the current IPv6).
>> 
>>> IEEE allows MAC
>>> addresses that have I/G set to 1 and U/L set to 0, which makes me rather
>>> uncomfortable with IETF using u=g=1 for their own purposes.
>> 
>> IEEE indeed permits group addresses for multiple interfaces that share a 
>> common address but, as we are in the context of IPv6 UNICAST addresses, 
>> interface all our IEEE-address derived IIDs have g=0. IETF can take 
>> advantage of this fact without risk to interfere with IEEE, 
> 
> As I said above the u=g=1 (U/L=0, I/G=1) makes no sense to current IPv6 use 
> (thus it looks like
> it could be used for other purposes).

OK.

> However, my point is that now we would be stepping into IEEE territory, which 
> I am not comfortable with.

My last answer to Brian answers this concern (I think).
RD




> 
> - JOuni
> 
> 
>> 
>> For more details, please see my last answer to Bob.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> RD
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> - Jouni
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> bits of the Interface Identifier. There were some concerns raised in
>>>> softwire about whether such addresses are actually compatible with the
>>>> IPv6 addressing architecture. Whether this is actually compatible with
>>>> the IPv6 addressing architecture is outside the scope of the softwire
>>>> wg. Hence we would like to hear the 6man wg's perspective on this. I
>>>> would like to request the wg to please go over the NOTE in Section 4.5
>>>> page 18, which explains the issue, and over IANA Considerations Section
>>>> 6, and chime in on whether this is acceptable from a 6man perspective.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Suresh
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