On 31  Jan 2013, at 13:11 , Rémi Després wrote:
> What ensures 4rd doesn't conflict with ILNP isn't at all
> that ILNP only uses u=0.  
> 
> It is that, in ILNP, no u=g=1 is used in *unicast* addresses
> (those whose IIDs are specified by RFC 4291). 

This is still inaccurate.  

I REALLY would be greatly obliged if you would not speculate 
about ILNP on IETF/IRTF mailing lists, primarily because 
any speculation is likely to be wrong -- and create needless
confusion amongst other folks on those lists. 

Some published ILNP papers talk about a form of multicast
addressing/routing that we believe is novel and are exploring.  
This combines a unicast routing prefix in the high-order 
64-bits with an IEEE EUI-64 compliant (and RFC-4291 
compliant) multicast group ID (i.e., U=G=1) in the low-order 
64-bits.  Because of existing IETF standards-track work 
where U=0, for example CGAs or "privacy" addresses, the 
U=0 identifier space (i.e., U=0 and G=1) can NOT be used 
for multicast identifiers.

So the proposed 4rd reservation of all (or most) uses of 
addresses with the combination of (A) U=G=1 identifier space 
and (B) unicast routing prefix is a direct conflict with
published ILNP papers and active ILNP work.

Both ILNP and 4rd are Experimental, at least today.  
This is why I tabled the possibility of allocating 
a small portion of the U=G=1 space under RFC-3692 shared 
experimental use rules.  That would permit multiple 
experiments to proceed, and is the usual IETF custom
for experimental work when a limited protocol-registry
resource is involved.

Yours,

Ran


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