For me, if the station changes frequency or city of license, then I count as a new station. As for Call letter or format changes I do re-log the station but it does not add to my totals since there is no change at the transmitter site.
This is my 2 cents worth..... James Niven Cedar Creek, Texas [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:18 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRCA] Opinions requested on documenting station swaps My approach is, I guess, to log the actual stick in the ground (the tower/antenna) on a given frequency. If the same antenna switches frequency, then for me it would be a new station. However, I treat call sign changes about the same way I would treat format changes, and note them as sorta cosmetic changes on the same station. The one thing I am on the fence about is where the station gets approval for a pattern and/or power change. For example, KRKO-1380 up here recently went to a jillion watts compared to what they were putting out before, and have a new tower, transmitter and IBOC exciter (sigh...). Logging them now is a lot easier than it was. For someone in Montana, they went from being a tough catch to perhaps a pest. It's as if there is a completely different station there from a DXing point of view, yet they have the same physical location and frequency. What to do? Kevin S Bainbridge Island, WA ------- Original Message ------- >From : Russ Edmunds[mailto:[email protected]] Sent : 1/18/2011 5:01:57 AM To : [email protected] Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [IRCA] Opinions requested on documenting station swaps To me these are call changes. I note them in my logs, ( and would do so again should they change again down the road ) but I don't count them in my totals. I know that others do things differently, but many do it this way also. At one time, I counted call changes, however I realized that as the different calls had no effect on my ability to hear the station or not, and the facilities were the same, that counting them no longer made sense, so I re-did my logs at the time to that effect. Russ Edmunds 15 mi NNW of Philadelphia Grid FN20id <[email protected]> FM: Yamaha T-80 & Onkyo T-450RDS w/ APS9B @15'; Grundig G8 AM: Modified Sony ICF 2010's barefoot --- On Tue, 1/18/11, Mike Hawkins <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Mike Hawkins <[email protected]> > Subject: [IRCA] Opinions requested on documenting station swaps > To: "Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America" <[email protected]> > Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 3:13 AM > I'm playing with radio station > history again and I'm doing battle with > myself about how to document station swaps. I'll give > two examples. > > Example #1: A few years back, KLOC/920/Ceres CA > format moved to > KVIN/1390/Turlock CA, and the KVIN format moved over to > KLOC. The call > letters swapped with the format change. From a > listener's perspective, that > is a frequency change and the city change is transparent to > the listener. > >From the FCC perspective, its two call letter changes > for two separate > facilities and who cares about the formats. > > Example #2: Recently, KERN/1410/Bakersfield CA > swapped formats and call > letters with KERI/1180/Wasco CA. As with example #1, > the listener finds > their favorite station on a new frequency, and the city > change is > transparent. The FCC sees it as two call letter > changes for two facilities. > > I'm on the fence and looking for opinions on how this > should be properly > documented. > _______________________________________________ > IRCA mailing list > [email protected] > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are > those of the original contributors and do not necessarily > reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing > staff, or officers > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > > To Post a message: [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ IRCA mailing list [email protected] http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: [email protected] _______________________________________________ IRCA mailing list [email protected] http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: [email protected] _______________________________________________ IRCA mailing list [email protected] http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: [email protected]
