Thanks Mauno, <<< I think the last time I could monitor Mongolia 1431 kHz was in June, I don't think it has been operating since. >>>
I remember seeing a post from Hiroyuki on DXing Info (Facebook) that the station seemed to be off the air, so expectations were not high. It's too bad that they decided to quit-- I think that during the recent enhanced conditions their signal could have made it to the west coast ocean beaches just before propagation dropped off. <<< Sorry, I can't get the language of 702 kHz, just a bit too muffled for my ears, but doesn't sound Urdu. >>> Thanks for listening, anyway. I'm not satisfied with the recording myself, and the station is my number one target for the next few days (well, along with 705-Laos :-) Gary > On November 5, 2018 at 1:23 PM Mauno Ritola <mauno.rit...@realmonitor.com > mailto:mauno.rit...@realmonitor.com > wrote: > > > Hi Gary, > > looks like I was wrong about the attachments: it was the *message* size > that was increased and attachments remain blocked. > > I think the last time I could monitor Mongolia 1431 kHz was in June, I > don't think it has been operating since. > > Sorry, I can't get the language of 702 kHz, just a bit too muffled for > my ears, but doesn't sound Urdu. > > Mauno > > Gary DeBock kirjoitti 5.11.2018 klo 19:03: > > > > <<< as you apparently didn't have time to check the ID from SW > yet, I > > did it > > for you from the stream. I'd write it in Latin letters phonetically > > as: > > "Haiqa ti Shya Kongpo Tientai" and that is what I hear in your clip > > at > > about 15 seconds. > > > > > > > > As I heard, that the attachment size has been raised, I attach a > 63 kB > > clip in this message. >>> > > > > > > > > Thanks very much, Mauno. Despite the solar slowdown this morning > > 783-Voice of Straight was its usual booming self into Hawaii at 1600 > > UTC, with this S9 ID in presumed Amoy > > https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/wnaev5gjrd045a22mt01nlnri12bsout > > By the way, Mauno, do you know if the 1431-Mongolia relay station > > has > > stopped transmitting? They were S9 in the Cook Islands around 1630 > > UTC > > in April, but haven't showed up here yet, despite good conditions > > yesterday and the day before. > > Regarding 729-Myanmar, I now know that there are no MW parallels to > > check for its programming, so probably the best that I can hope for > > is > > Burmese language identification, or mentions of Myanmar in the > > recording content, as at the 43 second point of this recording > > https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/pflnbymjhgx5m88l03wgvtsss7gnlfff. > > I'm also chasing a 702 UnID language recording at 1623 UTC made > > yesterday, with the female speaker in an apparent Slavic-type > > language. My WRTH shows 702-AIR's foreign service in Jalandhar A > > with > > Urdu at the time, broadcasting to South Asia > > https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/6y1yiuoxvzd0tty50cnehmma670jb708 > > Thanks again for all your assessment help! > > > > > > > > Gary > > > > > > > On November 5, 2018 at 6:50 AM Mauno Ritola wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gary, > > > > > > > > > > > > > as you apparently didn't have time to check the ID from > > SW yet, I > > > > > > > > did it > > > > > > > for you from the stream. I'd write it in Latin letters > > phonetically as: > > > "Haiqa ti Shya Kongpo Tientai" and that is what I hear in > > > your clip at > > > about 15 seconds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > As I heard, that the attachment size has been raised, I > > attach a 63 kB > > > clip in this message. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if someone would write 'open' all those Mongolian, > > Tibetan and > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > IDs, that are heard from China on MW. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mauno > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gary DeBock kirjoitti 5.11.2018 klo 8:40: > > > > > > > > > > Chris, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks very much for your investigation of the > > > 783 kHz UnID > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chinese station identity. 783-Voice of the Straight is the > > > strongest > > Asian TP on the band both in the morning and evening here, and it > > plays an incredible variety of music (Chinese opera, pop, > > instrumentals, and even rap :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <<< Meanwhile, the clip that you just posted here > > > is 100% Voice of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Straits. It's both hypocritical and ridiculous to hear on > > > this > > station, as nice as it sounds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. The government of China has > > > BANNED rap and hip-hop music > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (doesn't mean it doesn't exist underground and that people > > > don't > > listen anyway), but here, you can hear them broadcast it on one of > > their own propaganda stations aimed at Taiwan. Taiwan is a huge > > consumer of hip-hop and rock music (American music as well) and most > > Chinese-language music in those genres originates there, so it makes > > sense they're throwing some of it their way.Meanwhile, the clip that > > you just posted here is 100% Voice of the Straits. It's both > > hypocritical and ridiculous to hear on this station, as nice as it > > sounds. >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, when a government has absolute power they > > > certainly have the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prerogative to change their minds or modify laws as desired, > > > don't > > they? My wife is Hong Kong Chinese, and she always tells me that > > laws > > don't mean anything in China, where the government can do anything > > it > > wishes. But sometimes I wonder how many Taiwan residents actually > > listen to these mono-format music broadcasts with a heavy propaganda > > edge? When you lived in Seoul, were the people rushing to turn on > > the > > Voice of Unification after their 12-hour work days? I think not. But > > to be honest, the programming from Pyongyang BS and KCBS is so > > ridiculous that it is actually pretty amusing, and I would be sorry > > if > > this type of amusement suddenly disappeared from the radio scene. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gary (in Poipu, Hawaii) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On November 4, 2018 at 2:21 PM Chris Kadlec wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Gary, > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Your 783 you've been hearing has been confirmed as Voice > > > of the > > > > > > > > Straits broadcasting in Amoy, as I was suspecting (since it > > > was the > > only high-powered one left). My friend in Guangdong, who can hear > > all > > of those stations nearby and can understand Amoy, listened to it and > > confirmed it for you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Meanwhile, the clip that you just posted here is 100% > > > Voice of > > > > > > > > the Straits. It's both hypocritical and ridiculous to hear on > > > this > > station, as nice as it sounds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> 1. The government of China has BANNED rap and hip-hop music > > > > > > > > (doesn't mean it doesn't exist underground and that people > > > don't > > listen anyway), but here, you can hear them broadcast it on one of > > their own propaganda stations aimed at Taiwan. Taiwan is a huge > > consumer of hip-hop and rock music (American music as well) and most > > Chinese-language music in those genres originates there, so it makes > > sense they're throwing some of it their way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> 2) The song you're hearing is Allen Su "Beijing City" > > > (Allen Su > > > > > > > > took 2nd place in the 2007 Super Boy competition, a TV music > > > contest > > show in China). Its lyrics are about the highest level of propaganda > > you could spew at your enemy across the water because it speaks > > everything great about Beijing. It's EXACTLY what Seoul broadcasts > > on > > Jayu FM into North Korea (I included a hefty chunk of the song in my > > Seoul AM Radio Listening Guide documentary), a song called "Seoul > > Seoul" that says all the same great things about Seoul sorta. The > > difference is that it was used for the '88 Olympics, but the idea > > behind using that suitable song for propaganda is the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> The Beijing song is here, lyrics included: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4jTf_WaAl8 > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -Chris Kadlec > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> *** > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 12:02:13 -0800 (PST) > > > >> > > > >> From: Gary DeBock > > > >> > > > >> To: Chris Kadlec , irca@hard-core-dx.com > > > mailto:irca@hard-core-dx.com > > > >> > > > >> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Thanks for your assessment on the 783 Chinese station, > > > Chris, and > > > > > > > > also on the 801 jammer (or lack thereof). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Of all the Asian signals here in this Asian-oriented DXing > > > > > > > > paradise, 783-China and (surprise!) 657-Pyongyang BS are the > > > S9+ > > leaders every morning. This is a major reversal from the Kona, > > Hawaii > > situation last December, when 819-KCBS and 981-CNR1 were far and > > away > > the top dogs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> When I heard this bizarre Chinese rap music on > > > > 783-China at 1541 > > > > > > > > UTC yesterday, I thought that it sounded like a weird Chinese > > > copy of > > Korean rap artists like Leessang :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/u653xdigwaeiaxlrh42x8duky2w3ppoz > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Gary > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > IRCA mailing list > > > > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com mailto:IRCA@hard-core-dx.com > > > > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing > > > list are those of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the > > > opinion > > of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com > > > mailto:irca@hard-core-dx.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > IRCA mailing list > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com mailto:IRCA@hard-core-dx.com > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the > original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, > its editors, publishing staff, or officers > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com mailto:irca@hard-core-dx.com > _______________________________________________ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
