Moving this discussion on numpy into its own thread so searching for it will be easier for folks in the future.
On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 8:59 AM Uncle Meat <3000....@gmail.com> wrote: > OK, I was able to track down some source code for the NumpyDotNet project. > It looks like some people did a lot of work on this: > https://github.com/numpy/numpy-refactor > I'm not sure what state it's in or even if it builds. I'm not sure who did > the .NET portion (I think it was Enthought) but it looks like the > "refactor" branch includes/inherits the numpy license. > > Steve > > > On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 8:36 AM, Uncle Meat <3000....@gmail.com> wrote: > >> You can still get the install binaries and Python code here: >> https://store.enthought.com/repo/.iron/ but you have to create a login >> at the Enthought site. Looks like the key to this is the NumpyDotNet dlls >> that I cant locate. Maybe we can ask Enthought if they'd like to open >> source it (or maybe this is just a dead end)? >> >> Steve >> >> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 1:59 AM, Markus Schaber <m.scha...@codesys.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> >>> At a first glance, IronLab looks nice. >>> >>> >>> >>> The License is LGPL, so I think it cannot be part of the main IronPython >>> distribution. >>> >>> >>> >>> OTOH, they’re using “NumPy and SciPY for IronPython / .NET” which seems >>> abandoned, but used to be maintained by the PTVS people: >>> >>> >>> http://pytools.codeplex.com/wikipage?title=NumPy%20and%20SciPy%20for%20.Net >>> >>> However, I could not locate the source repository of those libraries… >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Btw, I found a serious drawback on my previous suggestion to use >>> C++/CLI: It’s hardly platform independent that way, as there’s no C++/CLI >>> Compiler (yet) which works on non-windows platforms. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Best regards >>> >>> Markus Schaber >>> >>> *CODESYS®* a trademark of 3S-Smart Software Solutions GmbH >>> >>> *Inspiring Automation Solutions * >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> 3S-Smart Software Solutions GmbH >>> Dipl.-Inf. 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Any >>> unauthorised copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this >>> e-mail is strictly forbidden.* >>> >>> *From:* Uncle Meat [mailto:3000....@gmail.com] >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 12, 2016 6:32 PM >>> *To:* Markus Schaber >>> *Cc:* Haymo Kutschbach; Tim Orling; ironpython-users@python.org >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [Ironpython-users] Community Meeting >>> >>> >>> >>> A project exists called IronLab (https://github.com/rwg0/ironlab) that >>> works with both numpy and scipy. Maybe we can leverage what was done in >>> IronLab to support numpy? I think it uses the code developed by Enthought, >>> not sure if it's OSS. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Markus Schaber <m.scha...@codesys.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> >>> Another way might be to use C++/CLI and the NumPy sources to directly >>> write a .NET wrapper for NumPy, with the API optimized for the IronPython >>> use case. >>> >>> >>> >>> Might be more work, but AFAICS, should give the best results >>> (performance-wise). >>> >>> >>> >>> Best regards >>> >>> Markus Schaber >>> >>> *CODESYS®* a trademark of 3S-Smart Software Solutions GmbH >>> >>> *Inspiring Automation Solutions * >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> 3S-Smart Software Solutions GmbH >>> Dipl.-Inf. Markus Schaber | Product Development Core Technology >>> Memminger Str. 151 | 87439 Kempten | Germany >>> Tel. +49-831-54031-979 | Fax +49-831-54031-50 >>> >>> E-Mail: m.scha...@codesys.com | Web: codesys.com >>> <http://www.codesys.com> | CODESYS store: store.codesys.com >>> CODESYS forum: forum.codesys.com >>> >>> *Managing Directors: Dipl.Inf. Dieter Hess, Dipl.Inf. Manfred Werner* | >>> *Trade >>> register: Kempten HRB 6186* | *Tax ID No.: DE 167014915* >>> * ------------------------------ * >>> >>> >>> >>> *This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If >>> you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) >>> please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any >>> unauthorised copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this >>> e-mail is strictly forbidden.* >>> >>> *From:* Ironpython-users [mailto:ironpython-users-bounces+m.schaber= >>> codesys....@python.org] *On Behalf Of *Haymo Kutschbach >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 12, 2016 5:39 PM >>> *To:* Tim Orling; Uncle Meat >>> *Cc:* ironpython-users@python.org >>> *Subject:* Re: [Ironpython-users] Community Meeting >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks Tim, >>> >>> Ironclad looks interesting. Will investigate it. Thanks for the >>> reference! >>> >>> The promising thing regarding efforts: most, if not all of it has been >>> done already in our Computing Engine. In fact people maintain wrappers >>> around the (Matlab'isch) ILNumerics which mimic the numpy API and tend to >>> be rather thin. The effort therefore would establish in getting rid of such >>> wrappers and to handle the internal storage differences directly in >>> ILNumerics. But of course, this needs to be done also... >>> >>> Best >>> Haymo >>> >>> On July 11, 2016 10:23:28 PM Tim Orling <ticot...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 6:56 AM, Uncle Meat <3000....@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Haymo, >>> >>> >>> >>> I am very interested in having IPy support Numpy. I would be willing to >>> support the effort if you need some help. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Numpy is a problem because of the amount of C extensions. The best hope, >>> IMHO, is ironclad which marshalls objects around. Pawel and I spent a bit >>> of time getting a clean build of ironclad, but whether it was actually >>> functional or not remains to be seen. We were going for clean builds as a >>> first step. Actually getting Numpy to be .NET native is going to be a LOT >>> of work. >>> >>> https://github.com/IronLanguages/ironclad >>> >>> Unfortunately, I have changed employers and am not that focused on .NET >>> any more. My main interest these days would be to see IronPython3 moving >>> forward (out of fondness for the platform). >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> --Tim (Intel Open Source Technology Center) >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 7:10 AM, Haymo Kutschbach < >>> h.kutschb...@ilnumerics.net> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Alex and all! >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks for the interesting news and for all the work done so far! There >>> are considerations at ILNumerics to add numpy support to IronPython. So I >>> would like to closely follow plans and progress of the main project. If >>> there is a chance to attend the upcoming meeting I would like to >>> participate as well. >>> >>> >>> >>> My timezone is CEST / Berlin. >>> >>> >>> >>> Best regards >>> Haymo >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ------------------------- >>> >>> Haymo Kutschbach >>> >>> ILNumerics GmbH >>> >>> >>> >>> h.kutschb...@ilnumerics.net >>> >>> >>> >>> ILNumerics GmbH >>> >>> Danziger Str. 219 >>> >>> 10407 Berlin >>> >>> >>> >>> Tel: +49 30 4208 7799 >>> >>> Fax: +49 30 4208 7775 >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.ilnumerics.net >>> >>> http://twitter.com/ilnumerics >>> >>> >>> >>> Registergericht: Amtsgericht Potsdam >>> >>> Registernummer: HRB 26715 P >>> >>> Geschäftsführung: Haymo Kutschbach >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Ironpython-users [mailto:ironpython-users-bounces+h.kutschbach= >>> ilnumerics....@python.org] *On Behalf Of *Slide >>> *Sent:* Montag, 11. Juli 2016 07:02 >>> *To:* ironpython-users@python.org >>> *Subject:* [Ironpython-users] Community Meeting >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello IronPythonistas! >>> >>> >>> >>> Jeff Hardy has handed over the mangement of IronPython to myself and >>> Benedikt Eggers. We are hoping to recruit some new people to contribute to >>> IronPython and get some releases out. We would like to have a community >>> meeting to discuss future direction for IronPython. We're planning on >>> holding the meeting on Gitter, you can find the room here: >>> https://gitter.im/IronLanguages/main. >>> >>> >>> >>> I would like to cover the following agenda topics, but would definitely >>> like to hear from community members what they would like to discuss as >>> well. >>> >>> >>> >>> - IronRuby - What do we want to do here? >>> >>> - Issue disposition - there are currently about 961 issues, with most >>> having been ported from CodePlex. >>> >>> - Release schedule - I would like to do more rolling releases, getting >>> features and fixes out faster, but still maintaining stability >>> >>> - Continuous Integration - I was, for some time a contributor on the >>> Jenkins project, I am approaching CloudBees to see what might be available >>> for open source projects >>> >>> - IronPython 3 - Roadmap to IronPython 3, which would be Python 3 >>> compatible. >>> >>> >>> >>> Please reply back if you are interested in attending the meeting and >>> specify your timezone. I'd like to make the meeting as easy to attend as >>> possible for the most amount of people. We won't be able to get everyone, >>> but I would like to get as many as possible. I would like to hold the >>> meeting this Thursday. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> >>> >>> Alex Earl >>> >>> (slide) >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ironpython-users mailing list >>> Ironpython-users@python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/ironpython-users >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ironpython-users mailing list >>> Ironpython-users@python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/ironpython-users >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Ironpython-users mailing list > Ironpython-users@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/ironpython-users >
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