In MRI, when you attempt to gem install, but don't have access to the system gems path, you get a warning before putting them in ~/.gems
Is this behavior preserved for IronRuby? -- Will Green http://hotgazpacho.org/ On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Shri Borde <shri.bo...@microsoft.com>wrote: > With yesterday's fix for System.UnauthorizedAccessException and another fix > I will do today for File.basename, "igem install" works in either elevated > or unelevated mode. In the former case, it will install to %ProgramFiles% > allowing for sharing with other users. In the second mode, it falls back to > installing to ~/.gems. This sounds like good behavior. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org [mailto: > ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Thibaut Barrère > Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:34 AM > To: ironruby-core@rubyforge.org > Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] "igem install rake" raise an > System.UnauthorizedAccessException (Windows 7) > > Hi, > > I'll be able to do another test tomorrow if it's still needed (is it > ?), I'll have access to my W7 machine then. > > On the whole thing: I believe that the newcomer, using a regular > account, installing the MSI for IronRuby 1.0 (not RC) in the default > provided path, should be able to use "igem install xxx" (on xp, vista, > w7) without any specific tweak. > > I'm not saying that it's easy to enable this though :), just that it > will be the expected polish from people trying IR out, in my opinion. > > Is this behaviour the target ? > > -- Thibaut > > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Shri Borde <shri.bo...@microsoft.com> > wrote: > > The following raises System.UnauthorizedAccessException with IronRuby, > but > > works with MRI. > > > > > > > > require "fileutils" > > > > FileUtils.mkdir_p "c:/Program Files/foo" > > > > > > > > If we make this work with IronRuby or atleast throw Errno::EACCES, I > think > > -user-install will work from non-elevated prompt > > > > > > > > From: ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org > > [mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Shri Borde > > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:40 PM > > To: ironruby-core@rubyforge.org > > Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] "igem install rake" raise an > > System.UnauthorizedAccessException (Windows 7) > > > > > > > > With RC1 (installed to Program Files by default), I was able to do "igem > > install" from an elevated Command Prompt. > > > > > > > > From a normal prompt, "igem install" failed with the > > System.UnauthorizedAccessException with or without -user-install. We > should > > track down why this is happening. > > > > > > > > From: ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org > > [mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Shri Borde > > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:18 PM > > To: ironruby-core@rubyforge.org > > Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] "igem install rake" raise an > > System.UnauthorizedAccessException (Windows 7) > > > > > > > > So how does RubyGems know that the target location is restricted? I can't > > just call File.open and catch the exception. Perhaps it eagerly checks > for > > permissions. > > > > > > > > So where does this leave us? Sounds like we can keep installing to > > ProgramFiles by default. Users can then run "gem install" from an > elevated > > Command Prompt if they want to share gems with other users, or they can > use > > -user-install if they prefer not to elevate. Sounds like we are good as > is > > if Thibaut (or someone else) can confirm that -user-install does work as > > expected. > > > > > > > > From: ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org > > [mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Jim Deville > > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:10 PM > > To: ironruby-core@rubyforge.org > > Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] "igem install rake" raise an > > System.UnauthorizedAccessException (Windows 7) > > > > > > > > Technically, the virtual store is an OS level feature, however, not using > > --user-install could imply to people that we are installing in a shared > > location when we aren't. > > > > > > > > JD > > > > > > > > From: ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org > > [mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Shri Borde > > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:06 PM > > To: ironruby-core@rubyforge.org > > Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] "igem install rake" raise an > > System.UnauthorizedAccessException (Windows 7) > > > > > > > > Might be a .NET issue, but we should work around it in that case. > > > > > > > > What I am curious about though is if MRI is installed to Program Files, > will > > "gem install" also silently install to the virtual store if it is run > > without elevation. If the redirecting is done at the Ruby/OS level, then > > RubyGems does not need to do anything, and so -user-install should not be > > needed at all. > > > > > > > > From: ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org > > [mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Jim Deville > > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:54 AM > > To: ironruby-core@rubyforge.org > > Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] "igem install rake" raise an > > System.UnauthorizedAccessException (Windows 7) > > > > > > > > Hm, that's interesting. MRI gets redirected to the virtual store but > > IronRuby does not, I wonder if that is more of a .NET issue than a > IronRuby > > problem. > > > > > > > > JD > > > > > > > > From: ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org > > [mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Shri Borde > > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:44 AM > > To: ironruby-core@rubyforge.org > > Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] "igem install rake" raise an > > System.UnauthorizedAccessException (Windows 7) > > > > > > > > There indeed is a difference in behavior between IronRuby and MRI when > > creating a file in %ProgramFiles% from a non-elevated process. MRI > silently > > writes to USERPROFILE. IronRuby raises Errno::EACCES. I have opened > > http://ironruby.codeplex.com/WorkItem/View.aspx?WorkItemId=3685 to track > > this. I don't see the System.UnauthorizedAccessException though. > > > > > > > > D:\>ruby -e "File.open('c:/Program Files/foo.txt', 'w+') {}" > > > > > > > > D:\>dir "c:\Program Files\foo.txt" > > > > File Not Found > > > > > > > > D:\>dir "%USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\foo.txt" > > > > 01/26/2010 11:39 AM 0 foo.txt > > > > 1 File(s) 0 bytes > > > > 0 Dir(s) 122,124,869,632 bytes free > > > > > > > > D:\>rbx -e "File.open('c:/Program Files/foo.txt', 'w+') {}" > > > > mscorlib:0:in `WinIOError': Access to the path 'c:\\Program > Files\\foo.txt' > > is denied. (Errno::EACCES) > > > > > > > > From: ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org > > [mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Shri Borde > > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:09 AM > > To: ironruby-core@rubyforge.org > > Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] "igem install rake" raise an > > System.UnauthorizedAccessException (Windows 7) > > > > > > > > Another way to simulate "sudo" is to use an elevated Command Prompt. > > http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/11841-run-administrator.html tells > you > > how. If you are using the command prompt a lot, you only need to deal > with > > the UAC dialog box once when you open the elevated Command Prompt. After > > that, all commands executed from the Command Prompt run elevated. > > > > > > > > Jim, from an elevated Command prompt, I was able to create a new file in > > %ProgramFiles% using notepad, and did not get any UAC dialog box. This > would > > mean that "gem install" should also be able to install gems to > > %ProgramFiles%. Not sure how this reconciles with your comment about > > TrustedInstaller. > > > > > > > > Thibaut, could you try using "igem install -user-install"? (I wonder if > > IronRuby needs to catch the System.UnauthorizedAccessException exception > and > > raise a Ruby exception for RubyGems to do the right thing.) > > > > > > > > Could you also separately try running from an elevated Command Prompt? > > > > > > > > From: ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org > > [mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Jim Deville > > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:18 AM > > To: ironruby-core@rubyforge.org > > Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] "igem install rake" raise an > > System.UnauthorizedAccessException (Windows 7) > > > > > > > > There are a couple of differences that would be apparent for this > proposed > > solution: > > > > 1) Runas /user.. Is much longer than sudo ;) > > > > 2) The normal installation directory is owned by TrustedInstaller > and > > Admins have no rights by default. We wouldn't have a supported way to > share > > gems at this time, since that does have security risks. Each user would > have > > to install their own gems, but (unsupported) you should be able to move > > GEM_PATH (assuming we can figure out how to share between IronRuby and > Ruby) > > to a shared location and change permissions on it. > > > > > > > > JD > > > > > > > > From: ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org > > [mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Will Green > > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:03 AM > > To: ironruby-core@rubyforge.org > > Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] "igem install rake" raise an > > System.UnauthorizedAccessException (Windows 7) > > > > > > > > Yes, that occurred to me this morning. ;-) > > > > > > > > So, runas /user:mymachine\administrator igem install foo for globals > gems, > > right? > > > > -- > > Will Green > > http://hotgazpacho.org/ > > > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 4:16 AM, Thibaut Barrère < > thibaut.barr...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> Per-user gems should not be the default. In RubyInstaller (mingw MRI), > as > >> well as MRI on Linux, and I believe OS X, system-wide gems are > >> the default. This, of course, would require elevation (sudo gem install > >> xxx). > > > > I believe per-user gems is now the default (it wasn't in the past, but > > if I'm right a rubygems update changed that behaviour. Maybe 1.3.0 - > > http://rubyforge.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=27728 => 'RubyGems now > > installs gems into ~/.gem if GEM_HOME is not writable. Use > > --no-user-install command-line switch to disable this behavior.'). > > > > Here's what happens on my machine (OS X): > > > > ~$ gem list | grep less > > ~$ sudo gem list | grep less > > ~$ gem install less > > (...) > > ~$ gem list | grep less > > less (1.2.21) > > ~$ sudo gem list | grep less > > (empty) > > > > ~$ gem -v > > 1.3.5 > > ~$ ruby -v > > ruby 1.8.7 (2009-06-12 patchlevel 174) [i686-darwin10.0.0] > > > > -- Thibaut > > _______________________________________________ > > Ironruby-core mailing list > > Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ironruby-core mailing list > > Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ironruby-core mailing list > Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core > > _______________________________________________ > Ironruby-core mailing list > Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core >
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