Yup, it is. From: ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org [mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Will Green Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 9:40 AM To: ironruby-core@rubyforge.org Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] "igem install rake" raise an System.UnauthorizedAccessException (Windows 7)
In MRI, when you attempt to gem install, but don't have access to the system gems path, you get a warning before putting them in ~/.gems Is this behavior preserved for IronRuby? -- Will Green http://hotgazpacho.org/ On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Shri Borde <shri.bo...@microsoft.com<mailto:shri.bo...@microsoft.com>> wrote: With yesterday's fix for System.UnauthorizedAccessException and another fix I will do today for File.basename, "igem install" works in either elevated or unelevated mode. In the former case, it will install to %ProgramFiles% allowing for sharing with other users. In the second mode, it falls back to installing to ~/.gems. This sounds like good behavior. -----Original Message----- From: ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org> [mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org>] On Behalf Of Thibaut Barrère Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:34 AM To: ironruby-core@rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core@rubyforge.org> Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] "igem install rake" raise an System.UnauthorizedAccessException (Windows 7) Hi, I'll be able to do another test tomorrow if it's still needed (is it ?), I'll have access to my W7 machine then. On the whole thing: I believe that the newcomer, using a regular account, installing the MSI for IronRuby 1.0 (not RC) in the default provided path, should be able to use "igem install xxx" (on xp, vista, w7) without any specific tweak. I'm not saying that it's easy to enable this though :), just that it will be the expected polish from people trying IR out, in my opinion. Is this behaviour the target ? -- Thibaut On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Shri Borde <shri.bo...@microsoft.com<mailto:shri.bo...@microsoft.com>> wrote: > The following raises System.UnauthorizedAccessException with IronRuby, but > works with MRI. > > > > require "fileutils" > > FileUtils.mkdir_p "c:/Program Files/foo" > > > > If we make this work with IronRuby or atleast throw Errno::EACCES, I think > -user-install will work from non-elevated prompt > > > > From: > ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org> > [mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org>] > On Behalf Of Shri Borde > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:40 PM > To: ironruby-core@rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core@rubyforge.org> > Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] "igem install rake" raise an > System.UnauthorizedAccessException (Windows 7) > > > > With RC1 (installed to Program Files by default), I was able to do "igem > install" from an elevated Command Prompt. > > > > From a normal prompt, "igem install" failed with the > System.UnauthorizedAccessException with or without -user-install. We should > track down why this is happening. > > > > From: > ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org> > [mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org>] > On Behalf Of Shri Borde > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:18 PM > To: ironruby-core@rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core@rubyforge.org> > Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] "igem install rake" raise an > System.UnauthorizedAccessException (Windows 7) > > > > So how does RubyGems know that the target location is restricted? I can't > just call File.open and catch the exception. Perhaps it eagerly checks for > permissions. > > > > So where does this leave us? Sounds like we can keep installing to > ProgramFiles by default. Users can then run "gem install" from an elevated > Command Prompt if they want to share gems with other users, or they can use > -user-install if they prefer not to elevate. Sounds like we are good as is > if Thibaut (or someone else) can confirm that -user-install does work as > expected. > > > > From: > ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org> > [mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org>] > On Behalf Of Jim Deville > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:10 PM > To: ironruby-core@rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core@rubyforge.org> > Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] "igem install rake" raise an > System.UnauthorizedAccessException (Windows 7) > > > > Technically, the virtual store is an OS level feature, however, not using > --user-install could imply to people that we are installing in a shared > location when we aren't. > > > > JD > > > > From: > ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org> > [mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org>] > On Behalf Of Shri Borde > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:06 PM > To: ironruby-core@rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core@rubyforge.org> > Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] "igem install rake" raise an > System.UnauthorizedAccessException (Windows 7) > > > > Might be a .NET issue, but we should work around it in that case. > > > > What I am curious about though is if MRI is installed to Program Files, will > "gem install" also silently install to the virtual store if it is run > without elevation. If the redirecting is done at the Ruby/OS level, then > RubyGems does not need to do anything, and so -user-install should not be > needed at all. > > > > From: > ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org> > [mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org>] > On Behalf Of Jim Deville > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:54 AM > To: ironruby-core@rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core@rubyforge.org> > Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] "igem install rake" raise an > System.UnauthorizedAccessException (Windows 7) > > > > Hm, that's interesting. MRI gets redirected to the virtual store but > IronRuby does not, I wonder if that is more of a .NET issue than a IronRuby > problem. > > > > JD > > > > From: > ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org> > [mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org>] > On Behalf Of Shri Borde > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:44 AM > To: ironruby-core@rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core@rubyforge.org> > Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] "igem install rake" raise an > System.UnauthorizedAccessException (Windows 7) > > > > There indeed is a difference in behavior between IronRuby and MRI when > creating a file in %ProgramFiles% from a non-elevated process. MRI silently > writes to USERPROFILE. IronRuby raises Errno::EACCES. I have opened > http://ironruby.codeplex.com/WorkItem/View.aspx?WorkItemId=3685 to track > this. I don't see the System.UnauthorizedAccessException though. > > > > D:\>ruby -e "File.open('c:/Program Files/foo.txt', 'w+') {}" > > > > D:\>dir "c:\Program Files\foo.txt" > > File Not Found > > > > D:\>dir "%USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\foo.txt" > > 01/26/2010 11:39 AM 0 foo.txt > > 1 File(s) 0 bytes > > 0 Dir(s) 122,124,869,632 bytes free > > > > D:\>rbx -e "File.open('c:/Program Files/foo.txt', 'w+') {}" > > mscorlib:0:in `WinIOError': Access to the path 'c:\\Program Files\\foo.txt' > is denied. (Errno::EACCES) > > > > From: > ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org> > [mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org>] > On Behalf Of Shri Borde > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:09 AM > To: ironruby-core@rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core@rubyforge.org> > Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] "igem install rake" raise an > System.UnauthorizedAccessException (Windows 7) > > > > Another way to simulate "sudo" is to use an elevated Command Prompt. > http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/11841-run-administrator.html tells you > how. If you are using the command prompt a lot, you only need to deal with > the UAC dialog box once when you open the elevated Command Prompt. After > that, all commands executed from the Command Prompt run elevated. > > > > Jim, from an elevated Command prompt, I was able to create a new file in > %ProgramFiles% using notepad, and did not get any UAC dialog box. This would > mean that "gem install" should also be able to install gems to > %ProgramFiles%. Not sure how this reconciles with your comment about > TrustedInstaller. > > > > Thibaut, could you try using "igem install -user-install"? (I wonder if > IronRuby needs to catch the System.UnauthorizedAccessException exception and > raise a Ruby exception for RubyGems to do the right thing.) > > > > Could you also separately try running from an elevated Command Prompt? > > > > From: > ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org> > [mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org>] > On Behalf Of Jim Deville > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:18 AM > To: ironruby-core@rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core@rubyforge.org> > Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] "igem install rake" raise an > System.UnauthorizedAccessException (Windows 7) > > > > There are a couple of differences that would be apparent for this proposed > solution: > > 1) Runas /user.. Is much longer than sudo ;) > > 2) The normal installation directory is owned by TrustedInstaller and > Admins have no rights by default. We wouldn't have a supported way to share > gems at this time, since that does have security risks. Each user would have > to install their own gems, but (unsupported) you should be able to move > GEM_PATH (assuming we can figure out how to share between IronRuby and Ruby) > to a shared location and change permissions on it. > > > > JD > > > > From: > ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org> > [mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org>] > On Behalf Of Will Green > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:03 AM > To: ironruby-core@rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core@rubyforge.org> > Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] "igem install rake" raise an > System.UnauthorizedAccessException (Windows 7) > > > > Yes, that occurred to me this morning. ;-) > > > > So, runas /user:mymachine\administrator igem install foo for globals gems, > right? > > -- > Will Green > http://hotgazpacho.org/ > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 4:16 AM, Thibaut Barrère > <thibaut.barr...@gmail.com<mailto:thibaut.barr...@gmail.com>> > wrote: > >> Per-user gems should not be the default. In RubyInstaller (mingw MRI), as >> well as MRI on Linux, and I believe OS X, system-wide gems are >> the default. This, of course, would require elevation (sudo gem install >> xxx). > > I believe per-user gems is now the default (it wasn't in the past, but > if I'm right a rubygems update changed that behaviour. Maybe 1.3.0 - > http://rubyforge.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=27728 => 'RubyGems now > installs gems into ~/.gem if GEM_HOME is not writable. Use > --no-user-install command-line switch to disable this behavior.'). > > Here's what happens on my machine (OS X): > > ~$ gem list | grep less > ~$ sudo gem list | grep less > ~$ gem install less > (...) > ~$ gem list | grep less > less (1.2.21) > ~$ sudo gem list | grep less > (empty) > > ~$ gem -v > 1.3.5 > ~$ ruby -v > ruby 1.8.7 (2009-06-12 patchlevel 174) [i686-darwin10.0.0] > > -- Thibaut > _______________________________________________ > Ironruby-core mailing list > Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org<mailto:Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ironruby-core mailing list > Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org<mailto:Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core > > _______________________________________________ Ironruby-core mailing list Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org<mailto:Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core _______________________________________________ Ironruby-core mailing list Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org<mailto:Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core
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