If Microsoft was simply sponsoring development and putting its stamp on it, it wouldn't be a problem.. but the fact that MS "owns" it IS a bottleneck, as been from the start. "Sync to TFS" commits make me cringe everytime I see them.
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Jim Deville <jdevi...@microsoft.com> wrote: > I guess I never really sent the mail that I meant to send about my > progression. > > > > Similar to Jimmy, I’ve also made the incredibly hard decision to move on as > well. I’ve been working on the JavaScript team now for about 2 weeks. I’ve > made this decision for many of the same reasons as Jimmy, but for various > personal reasons, I decided to remain with MS instead of leaving. I will > still be working with IronRuby, it just won’t be my primary function > anymore. I also had a wonderful time on the team, and I will really miss > working directly with them. > > > > I agree that IronRuby is not a big community, but I don’t know that it is a > problem unless we let it be one J. I also feel that MS owning the code isn’t > a problem. It’s not like it really benefits anyone inside of MS, it benefits > us, the users J. It also benefits the Ruby community at large if we continue > to make IronRuby a great product that people want to use in their .NET > applications, because it shows people Ruby J > > > > I understand that this is sad, and for some, expected L, but I hope that > people still continue doing the awesome things people have been doing J > > > > JD > > > > From: ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org > [mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Orion Edwards > Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 2:43 PM > > To: ironruby-core@rubyforge.org > Subject: [Ironruby-core] "Start spreading the news" > > > > I'm sure most of you have seen this already, but I hadn't seen Jimmy's > "farewell Microsoft" blog post posted to the list, so here it is if anyone > hasn't read it > > > > http://blog.jimmy.schementi.com/2010/08/start-spreading-news-future-of-jimmy.html > > > > I'd like to thank Jimmy for his work thus far on IronRuby, and certainly > wish you the best of luck at your new job and living in NYC. From that point > of view, it's happy days. > > > > The news about Microsoft's internal handling of IronRuby however makes me > rather sad, and frankly a bit worried about the future of IronRuby in > general. If there's now only 2 part-time developers working on IR inside > Microsoft, and they've been told not to develop any new features, then where > does that leave us? > > > > While IronRuby is open source (yay), It unfortunately hasn't seem to have > become quite big enough (unlike JRuby) to be self sustaining. > > > > I personally also perceive somewhat of a problem, in that (again, unlike > with JRuby) Microsoft "owns" IronRuby. Last I knew, committers still had to > sign a copyright assignment form to MS, and MS controls all the repositories > and other assorted stuff. (AFAIK Charles has personally controlled all the > JRuby repos since day one and still does). > > This provides a LARGE (to me at least) disincentive to contribute to > IronRuby in the future. Because MS owns IronRuby, I feel like if I were to > commit code, it would not be for the benefit of a nice friendly > community-driven open source group, it would be for the benefit of Microsoft > Corporation. > > I was happy to accept this when MS were putting a lot of work into IronRuby, > but now that they're not, my feeling is "So Microsoft have bailed and left > us hanging, why on earth would I want to do work on their behalf after > they've just done that?" > > > > At any rate, I've not committed any code to IronRuby (I've come close > several times, but never just had the time) so my opinion is largely > irrelevant, I just hope that other potential committers with more time and > skill than I don't end up feeling this way too :-( > > _______________________________________________ > Ironruby-core mailing list > Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core > > -- Michael Letterle IronRuby MVP http://blog.prokrams.com _______________________________________________ Ironruby-core mailing list Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core
