lha....wong Gusdur itu kan nggak bisa nglihat. Sehingga dia nggak bisa membedakan mana yang rumah tinggal dan mana yang gereja. Wajar kalau dia asal ngomong.
-----Original Message----- From: A_Dharmawan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 10:02 AM To: Milis is-lam Subject: [is-lam] RE: Pendirian Gereja Tanpa Izin/Liar - Re: FPI Akan TuntutGus Dur FPI Akan Tuntut Gus Dur Muhammad Atqa - detikcom Jakarta - Pernyataan Gus Dur bahwa FPI melakukan pengrusakan dan penutupan paksa terhadap 23 gereja di Bandung, sehingga Presiden SBY harus turun tangan, berbuntut panjang. FPI akan menuntut Gus Dur karena mencemarkan nama baik dengan memfitnah FPI. Gus Dur diminta untuk mencabut pernyataannya dan meminta maaf kepada FPI. "FPI tidak pernah melakukan penutupan paksa. Itu fitnah dan bohong besar. Tidak ada anarkisme atau pengrusakan," kata Ketua DPP FPI Bidang Internal Ahmad Sobri kepada detikcom ketika dihubungi melalui telepon, Rabu (23/8/2005). Sobri menjelaskan, bukanlah gereja yang ditutup, melainkan rumah yang dijadikan gereja liar. Hal inilah yang dilakukan FPI bersama masyarakat untuk menghentikan kegiatan pemukiman yang dijadikan gereja liar tanpa izin warga setempat. "Itu melanggar Surat Keputusan Bersama (SKB). Kita hanya menuntut pengembalian sesuai fungsinya. Mereka tidak diizinkan oleh masyarakat setempat. Namun mereka tetap ngotot. Aparat pun tidak berbuat apa-apa," jelas Sobri. Apalagi, lanjut Sobri, pendirian gereja itu di tengah-tengah warga yang mayoritas Muslim. "Paling cuma ada 1 atau 2 orang saja warga Kristen di sana. Masih banyak gereja yang kosong, kan mereka bisa gabung ke gereja itu," ujarnya. Diberitakan sebelumnya, Front Pembela Islam (FPI), Aliansi Gerakan Anti Pemurtadan (AGAP), dan ormas Islam lainnya beserta masyarakat telah melakukan penutupan terhadap 23 gereja di Bandung. Aksi ini dilakukan terhitung sejak 3 September 2004 hingga 21 Agustus 2005. Hal ini membuat Gus Dur turun tangan. Dia meminta SBY menindak tegas. Jika tidak, banser pun siap dikerahkan. Gus Dur mengatakan, "Kepada pimpinan tinggi FPI, saya ajukan imbauan agar hal ini diindahkan. Anda telah dua kali melakukan kesalahan organisatoris dan melanggar UU. Yang pertama Ahmadiyah dan sekarang ini menutup paksa gereja,". -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of A Nizami Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 3:39 PM To: is-lam Subject: [is-lam] Pendirian Gereja Tanpa Izin/Liar - Re: FPI Tutup Paksa 23Gereja Assalamu'alaikum wr wb, Itu kasusnya adalah rumah biasa yang kemudian dijadikan gereja tanpa izin di tengah2 penduduk yang mayoritasnya Islam. Hingga akhirnya timbul keributan. Oleh karena itulah dibuat SKB 3 Menteri untuk mengatur itu. Jangankan di Indonesia, di Eropa saja yang katanya bebas, ummat Islam juga tidak bisa sembarangan mendirikan masjid tanpa izin. Sebagai contoh, di Athena sama sekali tidak ada masjid karena mayoritas penduduk tersebut menentang pendirian masjid. Akibatnya ummat Islam di sana (sebagian penduduk lokal dan staf kedubes negara Islam) tak bisa beribadah di masjid. Intinya izin. Kalau gereja yang sudah berizin seperti gereja Santa, dsb, mana ada ormas Islam yang mau menggerebek? Bukankah di Bandung ada berpuluh-puluh gereja yang berdiri dengan aman tanpa gangguan? Greek mosque plans cause friction By Richard Galpin BBC, Athens The small Greek town of Peania nestles in the hills north of the capital, Athens, close to the new international airport. It is an unremarkable place, and an air of boredom hangs over the central square. Athens has had no mosque since the early 19th Century But not for much longer. If the Greek Government has its way, the town will become the focus for tens of thousands of Muslims living in the capital with the construction of the first proper mosque in the Athens area for almost 200 years. The Foreign Ministry is pushing hard for a large mosque and Islamic cultural centre to be built before the Olympics get under way in just over a year's time. It's a very bad situation, they are violating our human rights - we must have a right to practise our religion and it must be in a proper mosque Mohammed Ashad Pakistani immigrant More than 30,000 square metres of land have been set aside for the buildings which will be paid for by Saudi Arabia at a cost estimated at millions of dollars. The Greek Government is acting partly out of shame, particularly with the approach of the Olympic games which are already putting the country under the international spotlight. "Athens is the only capital in the European Union without a mosque," Foreign Minister George Papandreou admitted in a recent statement. Makeshift mosques It is an extraordinary fact that not a single mosque has operated officially in the capital or its immediate surroundings since Greece gained its independence from the Muslim Ottoman empire in the early 19th Century. Mosques have been set up in apartment blocks The growing number of Muslim immigrants in Athens from Albania, South Asia, Africa and the Middle-East pray at so-called "underground" mosques which are not properly licensed. Dozens of these makeshift mosques have been set up in the capital in apartments, shops and garages. "It's a very bad situation, they are violating our human rights," says Mohammed Ashad, a Pakistani immigrant who has lived in Greece for six years. "We must have a right to practise our religion and it must be in a proper mosque." Mohammed was speaking after completing his prayers at an underground mosque in the city centre. It is in a dingy, run-down apartment block with a staircase which stinks of urine. The room which masquerades as a library, is too small for the busiest prayer-time of the week on Fridays when people spill out into the hall and down the stairs. "It's very strange because Greece is inside the European Union and will be in the centre of Europe with the inclusion of 10 more countries," says Mohammed, "and yet there's no official mosque." Plan rejected Ambassadors representing Arab countries have been trying to persuade the Greek Government to build a proper mosque for almost 30 years. They are now certain they have succeeded. Almost 100% of the population here is opposed to the mosque - we were never asked if we wanted it and this region is not suitable Paraskevas Papakostopoulos Mayor of Peania "All the preparations are complete, " says Abdullah Abdullah, the Palestinian representative in Athens. "The Greek Government gave its approval, the Arab side is ready for the construction and the Greek church has given its blessing." But back in the town of Peania where the mosque is to be built there is fury amongst the local population. The town council has rejected the plan and mayor Paraskevas Papakostopoulos has appealed to the courts to block the building of the mosque, arguing it is illegal to use the land for construction. "Almost 100% of the population here is opposed to the mosque," he says. "We were never asked if we wanted it and this region is not suitable." Historic fear The mayor is particularly concerned that the mosque will be seen by visitors as they land at Athens airport. "This is a problem for us as the first impression visitors will have will be something not representative of Greek culture. They will feel they have arrived in a Muslim country." Officially the Greek Orthodox Church, which dominates the country's religious life, has said it does not oppose the new mosque. But amongst the clergy in Peania there is a very different view. "I cannot conceive of this mosque being built here," says parish priest Father Antonios Milakis. "At the Islamic centre they will train and ordain Muslims and they will try to convert people of other faiths." It seems this fear of Islam is rooted in history. "Greece and the Greeks link Islam or Muslims with the Turkish occupation of the country [which lasted] for centuries and this resentment is still there," says Abdullah Abdullah. But ironically even the Muslims themselves are opposed to the mosque being built in Peania. The town is 20 kilometres from the centre of Athens and most say they will not be able to go there for their daily prayers as it is simply too far away. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3104893.stm Zaman's mosque, one of six or so in the Memphis area, was paying for space at a private cemetery, some 45 miles away, that was nearing capacity. But when the Muslim Society of Memphis asked a suburban planning board for permission to build an Islamic cemetery closer to town, in an area with several other cemeteries, the community responded with outrage. "We don't need bin Laden's cousins in our neighborhood," said one Fayette County resident during a public hearing. "We know for a fact that Muslim mosques have been used as terrorist hideouts," argued another, who later likened Muslims to Nazis. Worried that the public outcry might pressure county commissioners to deny the request, the Muslim Society temporarily withdrew its application. But Zaman, who teaches at the University of Tennessee's medical school, says the group is determined to prevail over the racist rhetoric. http://www.muslimwakeup.com/bb/viewtopic.php?p=1114&; --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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