bernd, there was really _not_ more content as in the transcript! 

> > I then did a screenshare to the call, and did a
> run-through of the key
> > elements of the architecture: core, defaults,
> alternatives, viewer; and
> > referencing JSR-299 for the terminology of "defaults"
> and "alternatives"
> > (we're hoping to refactor towards JSR-299 during
> incubation).
> 
> Wow, this seems to be pretty important stuff for anyone
> interested in
> the project. Where can I find that information? In the ML
> archives? On
> the website? (Sorry, I'm new to the project.)

There are 2 books on this topic (Isis, NakedObjects). All what Dan did was to 
give us a brief interactive intro. But there are also public talks on this 
topic, e.g. Dan's Devoxx talk for which I posted a parleys link on the mailing 
list  in the past already. All this information got already published on the 
list weeks ago...
For the JSR-299 part: we just talked about what we could do and what kind of 
specced CDI functionality is available in general. Nothing which didn't already 
got covered on the list also ...

So please lets not make an elephant from a fly :)

LieGrue,
strub


--- On Fri, 11/26/10, Bernd Fondermann <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Bernd Fondermann <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: skype conf call write-up...
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Friday, November 26, 2010, 11:47 AM
> Hi,
> 
> As I said on the incubator-general list, I think having
> conference
> calls for incubating projects or Apache projects in general
> is not an
> overwhelmingly good idea. More details inline.
> 
> On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 00:15, Dan Haywood <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Somewhat belatedly, just capturing a few notes from
> the skype conf call that
> > took place last Thu (crikey ... a week ago!)
> >
> <snip/>
> >
> > We then went around the "table" and introduced
> ourselves.  Sorry, I didn't
> > take detailed notes, but my impression (and from
> following mails on
> > isis-dev) was that this was really worthwhile, and
> helped the community feel
> > like, well, a community.
> 
> Except that for those not on the call, we now feel like not
> being part
> of the community.
> The community is here on-list and includes those lurkers
> and users not
> actively participating. At open source projects, committers
> typically
> represent less than 10% of the community, as you can derive
> from
> mailing list subscriber numbers.
> 
> > I then did a screenshare to the call, and did a
> run-through of the key
> > elements of the architecture: core, defaults,
> alternatives, viewer; and
> > referencing JSR-299 for the terminology of "defaults"
> and "alternatives"
> > (we're hoping to refactor towards JSR-299 during
> incubation).
> 
> Wow, this seems to be pretty important stuff for anyone
> interested in
> the project. Where can I find that information? In the ML
> archives? On
> the website? (Sorry, I'm new to the project.)
> 
> >I also
> > described the different builds supported: mvn clean
> install and mvn
> > site-deploy, x-refing the wiki for details.
> >
> > We also talking briefly about the fact that we'll need
> to decide on a v0.1
> > release, what's to go into it, and when to aim for.
>  I promised to put some
> > posts on the ML about this (which I've still to do).
> 
> Releasing is a pretty important aspect for any project.
> Time would
> have been spent much better posting to the ML directly
> instead of
> discussing it on skype and then waiting a week until
> posting.
> 
> As was emphasized elsewhere, off-list communication is not
> forbidden
> and it will happen - as a matter of fact. I just want to
> point out its
> disadvantages.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>   Bernd
> 



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