Hi mva
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Dan
On 18/03/2011 10:54, Michael van Acken wrote:
[in reply to http://forums.pragprog.com/forums/106/topics/8785]
Hi Dan,
[snip]
The option to have FitNesse as apache-extras.org part on Isis is
much more interesting to me than having it with NO4. The reason
for this is, that I am currently using NO4 for prototyping.
Scenario tests become important if we actually develop
applications with it -- and this is something for which I would
like to switch to Isis.
Let me get the existing fitnesse code committed into apache-extras.org,
then I'll have a go at getting it working.
If you're interested in contributing, then I'll set you up as a project
member. I guess you'll need to register an account on apache-extras first.
What is currently keeping me from using Isis is that there is no
release yet, and that your book makes it so very easy to start
with NO4.
We do have a snapshot release available; if you go to our website [1]
then you'll see details of the Maven archetype to run
(0.1.1-incubating-SNAPSHOT).
I really appreciate the work you have put into there:
the areas you cover and the level of detail you provide for them
are really great. Even though I never used Maven2, Eclipse, or
NO4 before I was able to get things working within hours. Given
my current time constraints, for prototyping I want to go with
something that is stable and avoid the risk of running into new
and interesting problems.
That's nice to hear, thanks.
As for FitNesse vs Concordion: I need something that is
accessible to non-developers as well. FitNesse running as a
standlone Wiki server, and also the simplified Wiki syntax, makes
this possible. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Concordion seems to
be run within a development environment and is based on XHTML
syntax. This would make it much harder to tie in a part of the
team.
I have got non-techie BAs (who were only really happy with Microsoft
Word) to write XHTML. The editor that I've found that works for me is
XmlMind (I also wrote the book in it!). I also wrote a mini-user guide
on XmlMind [2]
When you say "supporting FitNesse within Apache Isis", are you
talking about the Fit adapters or the SLIM code you mention in
one of your blogs? From what little experience I have with
FitNesse, the SLIM error reporting seems to be better.
Yes, SLIM probably is the long-term future for Fitnesse, but it
currently doesn't support the same set of functionality as the older FIT
API. The Isis/Fitnesse integration uses FIT, not SLIM.
-- mva
Thanks again for your interest,
Dan
[1] http://incubator.apache.org/isis/quickstart-app.html
[2] http://incubator.apache.org/isis/viewer/bdd/docbkx/html/guide/apa.html
