Hi!

Txs for your help Michael!

The green route would be to open a new Jira and attach all the stuff (patches, 
documentation, etc) there. That way we can easily track where we got stuff 
from. 

Since the current source looks pretty ok, I think we can also start with 
getting something released in the next 2 months or so. 
Any objections?

txs and LieGrue,
strub

--- On Mon, 3/21/11, Dan Haywood <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Dan Haywood <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: FitNesse and Isis
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Monday, March 21, 2011, 9:21 AM
> Hi mva
> within
> Dan
> 
> On 18/03/2011 10:54, Michael van Acken wrote:
> > [in reply to http://forums.pragprog.com/forums/106/topics/8785]
> > 
> > Hi Dan,
> > 
> > [snip]
> > The option to have FitNesse as apache-extras.org part
> on Isis is
> > much more interesting to me than having it with
> NO4.  The reason
> > for this is, that I am currently using NO4 for
> prototyping.
> > Scenario tests become important if we actually
> develop
> > applications with it -- and this is something for
> which I would
> > like to switch to Isis.
> 
> Let me get the existing fitnesse code committed into
> apache-extras.org, then I'll have a go at getting it
> working.
> 
> If you're interested in contributing, then I'll set you up
> as a project member.  I guess you'll need to register
> an account on apache-extras first.
> 
> 
> > What is currently keeping me from using Isis is that
> there is no
> > release yet, and that your book makes it so very easy
> to start
> > with NO4.
> We do have a snapshot release available; if you go to our
> website [1] then you'll see details of the Maven archetype
> to run (0.1.1-incubating-SNAPSHOT).
> 
> 
> > I really appreciate the work you have put into there:
> > the areas you cover and the level of detail you
> provide for them
> > are really great.  Even though I never used
> Maven2, Eclipse, or
> > NO4 before I was able to get things working within
> hours.  Given
> > my current time constraints, for prototyping I want to
> go with
> > something that is stable and avoid the risk of running
> into new
> > and interesting problems.
> That's nice to hear, thanks.
> 
> 
> > As for FitNesse vs Concordion: I need something that
> is
> > accessible to non-developers as well.  FitNesse
> running as a
> > standlone Wiki server, and also the simplified Wiki
> syntax, makes
> > this possible.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but
> Concordion seems to
> > be run within a development environment and is based
> on XHTML
> > syntax.  This would make it much harder to tie in
> a part of the
> > team.
> I have got non-techie BAs (who were only really happy with
> Microsoft Word) to write XHTML.  The editor that I've
> found that works for me is XmlMind (I also wrote the book in
> it!).  I also wrote a mini-user guide on XmlMind [2]
> 
> 
> > When you say "supporting FitNesse within Apache Isis",
> are you
> > talking about the Fit adapters or the SLIM code you
> mention in
> > one of your blogs?  From what little experience I
> have with
> > FitNesse, the SLIM error reporting seems to be
> better.
> 
> Yes, SLIM probably is the long-term future for Fitnesse,
> but it currently doesn't support the same set of
> functionality as the older FIT API.  The Isis/Fitnesse
> integration uses FIT, not SLIM.
> 
> 
> 
> > -- mva
> > 
> Thanks again for your interest,
> 
> Dan
> 
> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/isis/quickstart-app.html
> [2] http://incubator.apache.org/isis/viewer/bdd/docbkx/html/guide/apa.html
> 



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