On 11 December 2011 18:27, Benson Margulies <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dan,
>
> I apologize for the flippant tone that seems to have confused the issue a
> bit.
>

No probs; I was just being dumb.



>
> The point of my email is to give you all a small poke in the direction
> of new committers. Whether that is a matter of evaluating people
> already in the community or marketing for additional participants.
>

Indeed.  I know we'll get there, and I hope we're providing enough evidence
to our mentors that we will, in time.



>
> You folks settled into a Apache-friendly working style almost
> immediately, so I do indeed believe that you could graduate any time
> now -- once you have some experience in adding to the community.
>
That's nice to hear, thx.

Dan




>
> --benson
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Dan Haywood
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Gotcha.  Silly me.
> >
> > My view: much as though I'd love to be graduating, I think it'd be
> > dishonest to push for it right now.
> >
> > As I understand things, new committers are meant to be from the user
> > community, usually those who initially contribute a few patches and
> thereby
> > gain the trust of the existing committer base.
> >
> > While there are definitely a number of users who are enthusiastic about
> > Isis, none have yet expressed interest in being committers as yet.  One
> > reason that's been mentioned is due to the complexity of the codebase
> > (which I think we need to continue to simplify).  Note to self: we ought
> to
> > ask what other reasons there are...
> >
> > More generally, we don't yet have new committers because the user base
> > remains small.  We know we need to continue working on marketing, and if
> we
> > do that then that will bring in more users and some of those will want to
> > become committers.  It was gratifying to see that the mail I did on
> Friday
> > just gone publicising a blog post got retweeted by quite a number of
> > people, and did well on dzone.  Hopefully a bit more of that sort of
> > activity will bring some more users and thence committers in.
> >
> > Thx
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > On 11 December 2011 17:32, Benson Margulies <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > Hi Dan...
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Dan Haywood
> >> > <[email protected]>wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Benson,
> >> >> Is this an email intended for Isis, or for Clutch?  I'm confused....
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > It is for us :), Benson is referring to our podling status on Clutch,
> in
> >> > this context Clutch is only a tool :).
> >>
> >> Right. 'clutch' is the overview page for the entire incubator.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Dan
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 11 December 2011 17:22, Benson Margulies <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Hey Isis community,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Your line in http://incubator.apache.org/clutch is almost
> perfect. It
> >> >> > would be good if you'd look to fill in the remaining box, so I
> could
> >> >> > look to pushing you to graduate.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -- one of your mentors
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Thanks
> >> > - Mohammad Nour
> >> > ----
> >> > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> >> moving"
> >> > - Albert Einstein
> >>
>

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