How about when you send it COD Secured and they print fake cashiers checks
that even your bank thinks are real until they come back on a closed account
two weeks later?  Hard to protect yourself in every scenario.   But I agree
on the prepaying for stuff which we have never gotten burnt on, knock on
wood.

Pete


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:28 PM
Subject: [isp-equipment] *****Buys Beware*****RE: Matt Griffitt & Related
Business


> Incredible you people just wire thousands of dollars from the
> comfort of your home office on a word of trust.
> How about signing a purchase order, getting an invoice, signing a
> contract?
> How about flying out to the persons wharehouse, ispecting the
> equipment, and watching it load up?
> I have learned the hard way too, but it only cost me $2500.
> best, kevin
> Also: Hp kayak XU single ppro 200, 32mb ram, cdrom, won't boot,
> $20 plus shipping
>
> > ****************Buyers beware of Midwest Technology Associates and
> > David Lambrix****************
> >
> > Let's get a few things into the open for all to judge.  I placed my
> > order with David Lambrix back on September 12th and wired him $23,500.
> >  After 2 weeks of not being able to deliver my order, my customer
> > cancelled the order.  When I asked him to wire back the money he told
> > me it was coming. Needless to say it's October 23rd and I still don't
> > have my money.
> >
> > Approximately a week and half ago I get a call from Matt Griffitt who
> > I have never heard of telling me that he is going to pay me the
> > $23,500.  I don't understand why he was going to pay me rather then
> > David Lambrix, but I didn't care thinking I was going to get paid.
> > Well, guess what folks I still don't have my money.
> >
> > Isn't it a coincidence that I'm not the only one David Lambrix owe
> > money to.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ron Sananes
> > Network IT Inc.
> > 30 Charnwood Place
> > Thornhill, Ontario
> > L3T 5H3 CANADA
> > Tel: 905-886-9821
> > Fax: 905-886-9823
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > www.netnit.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David P. Lambrix [mailto:dave@;mwta.net]
> > Sent: October 22, 2002 2:54 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [isp-equipment] Matt Griffitt & Related Business
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Good afternoon!
> >
> > Yesterday and again today, Frank Kim posted a message to the list
> > which briefly described a situation that exists between he and Matt
> > Griffitt at Bulk Bandwidth Central. While I generally try to stay away
> > from these types of disagreements, my phone has been ringing
> > consistently with questions, demands and concerns from previous and
> > current customers of both my company and Matt's. First, allow me to
> > explain the nature of the relationship between Matt Griffitt and
> > myself. Matt has been operating Bulk Bandwidth Central for over two
> > years now. The company is a tax-paying, registered LLC in Washington
> > state. The company has done business out of the same location it does
> > now since it's inception. My point? At the very least, Matt Griffit
> > and his company is more than a fly-by-night organization with a card
> > table and a laptop. This leads to the most frequently asked question I
> > get. What is the nature of the relationship between Matt Griffitt and
> > myself? Well, I have known Matt for over five years. I originally met
> > him at a consulting company in the Seattle area where I was VP of
> > Sales and Marketing and he was the Chief Information Officer. While we
> > only worked together for about a year before I moved east, we have
> > maintained a friendship and recently, an informal business aliance. My
> > company, Midwest Technology Associates, focuses on technology solution
> > implimentation - brokering equipment as a side venture only. Other
> > than a buy/sell relationship between Matt and I, we hold no stake in
> > each other's companies. My involvement in any of Matt's business
> > dealings has been that as a friend, advisor and concerned third
> > party...
> >
> > Like all companies in this market, both Matt and myself have had
> > situations in which circular deals were present or vendors became
> > unreliable. While no one can predict these things, they simply do
> > happen and there isn't much anyone can do about it. One situation on
> > my plate at the moment is that between my company and Ron Sananas with
> > Network-IT in Thornhill, Ontario. I owe Mr. Sananas $23,500 on a box
> > he purchased from me a few weeks back that I failed to deliver. In
> > good faith, I attempted to cover the order and only managed to eat up
> > more of my working capital. A number of issues have arrisen in this
> > transaction, most all of which lay the blame on my shoulders. I have
> > no problem publically admitting that I owe this money to Mr. Sananas -
> > I am an honest, God fearing man and have no intention of ripping
> > anyone off. While yes, the delay in getting the refund has been
> > improper, my bank assures me the wire is in transit as of today.
> >
> > A second situation is that with Jerry Galluzzo at United Computer. Mr.
> > Galluzzo paid for a 5400 which was sold out from under him while we
> > were waiting on payment. I have been waiting diligently for another
> > few boxes to arrive from a source overseas. I bought a box to cover
> > from Matt, and he only received it yesterday. Again, no one is getting
> > ripped off, but the circumstances are rather unfortunate and may very
> > well be my fault. I am, however, confident Jerry's box is in transit.
> >
> > The situation with Frank Kim is not one that I am entirely privy to.
> > While I have done no business with Frank, his reputation is golden and
> > I respect what he says. My motivation for this message isn't to
> > exonerate anyone, including myself - only to let present and future
> > customers know that while things do happen from time to time, they are
> > resoloved fairly, professionally and completely by both myself and
> > Matt. The two stories above are not things I am proud of. I am,
> > however, willing to put my personal and business reputation on the
> > line and say that both of these gentlemen will get exactly what they
> > paid for or a timely refund. Honesty is founded on the ability to
> > recognize and correct mistakes and misgivings. I look forward to
> > discussing this with anyone interested, off list. Thanks for your
> > time!
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > David Lambrix
> >
> >
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