I fail to understand the logic of putting preconditions for sending the proper minutes of the ISPAK Karchi AGM meeting. With all due respect it is your duty as President ISPAK to insure that proper minutes of every ISPAK meeting are recorded and issued in a timely manner to all members and not get into or create these uncalled for confusions.
This is how it is done in any professional body.
This delay of four days in issuing the minutes are causing confusions and this will eventually lead to another round of emails on this list which only cause confusion and resentments.
It is requested to kindly direct PASHA to write complete minutes of the meeting, have them approved from you as President ISPAK and email to all by the weekend. He should make sure that he includes all issues that were discussed and then put for vote including the scanned copies of the TWO separate sheets on which members signed/voted for various proposals.
These very proposals should then be put to vote in Lahore AGM meeting to all registered ISPAK members who take the time out to participate and vote.
All votes should then be counted and whatever is the outcome everyone should be informed about it and I am sure all will accept it in true democratic spirit.
Regards
Azfar
At 06:05 AM7/14/01+0500, sbhutta wrote:
Scan document of attendance and signed decision for voters will be circulated after the reply is received from Mr.Qazi Sahib.
There were three representative from WOL but only one has signed.
Best regards.
Bhutta
- ----- Original Message -----
- From: Engr.Imran Akhtar Shah
- To: A.R. Nasir Qureshi ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Cc: ISPAK
- Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 2:41 AM
- Subject: Re: ISPAK: Voter- Agreed Decision in AGM on 10th July 2001 at ISPAK Office
- Dear Friends of ISPAK,
- While in the meeting in Lahore organized by Mr. Shahid Alvi, Mr. Bhutta agreed to wait for the second AGM at Lahore before announcing any decision.
- This decision which he has circulated becomes official only when all the members have participated. I hope Mr. Bhutta will agree here. Our friends at Karachi have agreed on one option and we need to see the answers from the members in North. Then democratically, majority decision will pervail.
- I would here request Bhutta Sb to get scan the attendance marked by the members on July 10,2001 and publish on this mailing list as well as the voting details on the questions put forward to the house. This will remove all kinds of doubt as the list provided by Bhutta Sb has one member who has not agreed on this question and same he had told to me on phone in evening of. July 13,2001 at Karachi. But his name is there in the agreed members. Plus to remove any doubts on the number of ISP's participated. There may be a case that one ISP had three of its Directors present there and in calculation it should be taken as 1.
- Regards,
- Imran Akhtar Shah
- COO-WTM
- At 12:57 AM 7/14/01 +0500, A.R. Nasir Qureshi wrote:
- Qazi Sahib,
- Since I do not know all ISP's by face, will you name the people who were
- not in the AGM, and are listed by Bhutta Sahib ???
- Regards,
- Nasir.
- On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Asif Luqman Qazi wrote:
- > Dear All,
- >
- > AGM meeting is not complete as yet. The decision will
- > be made after the meeting in Lahore. Moreover, only
- > those who attend the meeting, or submit a written
- > proxy, are counted. Your list includes some names who
- > participated in niether way.
- >
- > While circulating various options for voting, all the
- > options must be written on the paper for members to
- > sign in front of the choice they like.
- >
- > Anyway, we will respect the opinion of majority
- > whatever the outcome is. We should turn ISPAK into a
- > truly democratic body.
- >
- > Regards,
- > Asif Luqman Qazi
- >
- >
- > --- sbhutta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
- > >
- > > Bis Mil Laa - Hir Rah Maanir Rahiim
- > >
- > > Dear All.
- > >
- > > Assalamu Alaikum,
- > > Agreed Decision in AGM on 10th July 2001 at ISPAK
- > > Office
- > >
- > >
- > >
- > > All eligible voters for ISPAK elections would pay
- > > their Registration fee and renewal fee along with
- > > Rs. 10,000/- (Rs. Ten thousand Only) as "Election
- > > Fund" and those members agree that they would
- > > contribute to ISPAK equally which will be not less
- > > than Rs. 30,000/- (Thirty Thousand only) per year.
- > > In case of failure to do so, the members/ defaulters
- > > would be excluded from ISPAK forum; mailing list and
- > > they would pay a 50% penalty on all outstanding dues
- > > to re-join the ISPAK.
- > >
- > >
- > >
- > >
- > >
- > > Agreed Members with Signatures:
- > >
- > > 1.. Mr. Tariq Niazi - Hinet
- > > 2.. Mr. Nasir Qureshi - Netasia
- > > 3.. Mr. Ashfaq Jan - CompuNet
- > > 4.. Mr. Tariq A. Nizami - SSUET
- > > 5.. Mr. Tariq Perdesi - Digicom
- > > 6.. Mr. Aly Ramzan - Cubexs
- > > 7.. Mr. Saifur Rahman - eWorld
- > > 8.. Mr. Jamal Nasir Khan - Super Net
- > > 9.. Mr. Ateeq Khan - Silversoft
- > > 10.. Mr. Faisal Ahmad - Fascom
- > > 11.. Mr. Naveed Khan - Satnet
- > > 12.. Mr. Ansar ul Haq - CyberNet
- > > 13.. Mr. Azfar Manzoor - WOL
- > > 14.. Mr. Malik M. Khan - Gem net
- > > 15.. Mr. Noman Rizvi - Century 21 Tech
- > > 16.. Mr. Nadeem A. Malik - Hamdard (HEN)
- > > 17.. Mr. Sanaullah Bhutta - Napcom
- > > 18.. Mr. Enver Pasha - AT&T
- > > 19.. Mr. Tajamal Hussain - Robonet
- > > 20.. Mr. Imran Qureshi - Cyber Access
- > > Total Members in Meeting : 26
- > >
- > >
- > >
- > >
- > >
- > > 1. Mr.Amir Shafi . Participated as
- > > Obsserver Mr.Azfar Manzoor agreed from
- > >
- > > WOL.
- > >
- > > 2. Mr.Zahid Haleem Participated as
- > > Obsserver Mr.Azfar Manzoor agreed from
- > >
- > > WOL.
- > >
- > > 3. Mr.Asif Luqman Qazi agreed first
- > > but he did not sign ( un-paid member)
- > >
- > > 4. Mr.S.M.Shafi infonet Letf
- > > meeting earlier
- > >
- > > 5. Mr. Mr. Fatal Asif
- > > World-call did not sign.
- > >
- > > 6. Mr. Asad Sabtain PICL
- > > Global net did not sign (Unpaid member)
- > >
- > >
- > >
- > >
- > > Wish you all the best.
- > >
- > > Sanaullah Bhutta
- > > President ISPAK
- > > Internet Service Providers Association of Pakistan
- > > 114 -Caesar's Towers,
- > > Main Shahrah-e-Faisal, Karachi.
- > >
- > > Phone: 021 - 7786232 - 7786339 -
- > > Fax: 021- 7786247 Mobile 0300 8243500
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- > >
- > >
- > > > BEGIN:VCARD
- > > VERSION:2.1
- > > N:;sbhutta
- > > FN:sbhutta
- > > EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- > > REV:20010713T164129Z
- > > END:VCARD
- > >
- >
- > > ATTACHMENT part 3 application/msword name=Agreed
- > Decision in AGM on 10th July 2001 at ISPAK Office.doc
- >
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