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Hi tai,

I think the first mistake you made is to come on this forum shooting without
even checking your rounds...NOT even testing the software!!!

We can never be totally-biased against any software; everything has its
merits and if you are looking for a perfect solution, no way you can find it
in any off-the-shelf software without customisation. Everyone's needs
differ. Then again, solutions are a combination of technology and human
intelligence so these are merely tools.

Information Technology is all about exploration of possibilities; that is
the true spirit of IT professional. Constructive suggestions are always
welcome and I believe developers will take heed to them.

ISS developers have proven this point in the release of RealSecure 6.0 with
quite a fair bit of end-user wish-list answered. Be constructive and write
to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

cheers and all the best in exploring the use of System Scanner...

J

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From: "tai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 7:55 AM
Subject: RE: Quick question about system scanner


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> All,
> Let me first say that I do NOT have practical experience with
> System Scanner.  I am new to the team at work.  One of the biggest
problems
> we have with it is that it is all Windows based, we are having a LOT of
> problems trying to get it into the production environment (because the
data
> center folks DO NOT WANT TO SUPPORT WINDOWS BASED SOLUTIONS).  I realize
> that many places run NT as desktops, and as such, it is a good idea to
have
> consoles running on win32 systems.  I have no problems with it.
>
> My problem is that ISS apparently threw away all the code/design
> that they had previously and decided to force all their customers into a
> (in my opinion as a "security expert", or a information security
> professional in any case) a lousy solution (very much my opinion,
> definitely speaking as a representative of my company).  It is my
> considered opinion that windows is an extremely difficult platform to
> secure, if that is possible.  And you want me to run a security solution
on
> it?  If it were not for the economic downturn, we would have went with
> another solution.
>
> Now, I do not have a good understanding of the System Scanner
> architecture, only what I have been briefed on by my team.  However, what
> was described sounded like a horrible dream.  Of course, once I get my
> hands on it, and get to muck around in it, my opinion may change.  *shrug*
>
> Now, pcAnywhere was never really considered a solution.  However, I
> am kinda pissed that we have to buy extra Terminal Server type licenses.
>
> My other question is regarding this "Vista" web server.  I was told
> it is actually the Apache webserver.  Why did ISS renamed it "Vista"?
That
> smells like its a stupid marketing decision.  I always believe in giving
> credit where credit is due.  Wish others acknowledge the contributions
that
> they got.
>
> Anyway, I am going to do my best to make the whole thing work at
> work.  I feel like I'm driving a car without brakes, but I need to feed my
> family.  I hope the recent discussion here made ISS aware that there are
> users other there who want to use it under Unix, and prefers not to pay
the
> Microsoft Tax.
>
> And thanx to those who suggested SMS, but SMS sucks too :)  I don't
> really prefer java either.  *shrug*  It depends on whether ISS wants to
> make their product into a market leader piece of software that works to
> their customers' benefit (making us change our security architecture is
not
> to our benefit *hint*)
>
> -Tai
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