Title: RE: [ISSForum] INTRUSION DETECTION vs INTRUSION PREVENTION

Netscreen IDP?

The real issue in intrusion is not to make the mistake in thinking that a box on the portal will solve the issues, it is essential to deploy Server based Server Sensor's as well to protect against internal hacking. The big benefit in the ISS solution is unique, it comes from deploying System Scanner and Server Sensor on all servers as well as Desktop protector on VPN laptops and a Guard on the Internet Portal, then, using Fusion software attack alerts can be correlated with known vulnerability status --- now you have real information and not just data!

I see a plethora of appliances, IDS in firewalls like Netscreen etc. etc. but they are just "islands" providing yet more data, ISS leads the World by providing a complete solution and having products for vulnerability assesment, log file analysis, Intrusion detection, Intrusion protection that all work together. It is like the data switching market, Avaya have a better core switch than Cisco in my humble opinion, there are better workgroup products than Cisco have, and probably better Routers --- but -- do you want three different management configurators? do you want three suppliers for a single network? This is where Cisco excelled and why they lead the market in networking, especially large networks, it comes down to Total Cost of Ownership and it is where ISS also excel, in providing the complete solution!

Mind you Cisco have made a real dog's breakfast of IDS!! Should stick to networking, like firewall vendors should stick to firewalls! Which is why ISS stick to what they do!

John Taylor

Tolerant Systems

 

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Subject: RE: [ISSForum] INTRUSION DETECTION vs INTRUSION PREVENTION

Has anyone looked at Netscreen's IDP product?

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Folks,

watch this space! ISS recently bought a Compoany called VCIS who developed
some very interesting software to observe behavioural patterns and I belive
you will see this incorporated into the products before too long!!

JT

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Subject: RE: [ISSForum] INTRUSION DETECTION vs INTRUSION PREVENTION


I've had a chance to look at a couple of these type of host products.  From
what I can tell, they offer no protection against TCP based attacks such as
DoS.  Since they operate on the kernel level, I would fear there would be
issues to updating my servers to the latest Service Pack or patch.  Plus,
ISS is a solid company that has been around and will continue to be around.

These other niche players are looking to be gobbled up.  Where does that
leave the customer?  What if the buyer is a company you despise?

-SS

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Subject: [ISSForum] INTRUSION DETECTION vs INTRUSION PREVENTION


My company is looking into intrusion prevention instead of ISS IDS. Does
ISS have any plan to fully incorporate intrusion prevention into their
architecture?
We are currently looking into two companies --- OKENA.COM and FORESCOUT.COM
Any thoughts on those two companies?

Thanks
Osaro Osagie
CCSA, CCNA, CISSP
ALLTEL Information Technology



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