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another way is to check all applications using specific ports in a
single host and reference this check with a database containing names
of p2p applications. You just need to create a proxy server between
the application layer and tcp/ip layer that will perform the checks.
This is more into IDS filed .

Regards

Abiola Abimbola BEng, MSc
Researcher 
Room 707
Tele: 231-2503 
School of Computing & Mathematical Sciences 
Liverpool John Moores University 
Byrom Street, Liverpool, UK 



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From: Gary Flynn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 December 2002 20:18
To: Beker Eli
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ISSForum] P2P applications and IDS/IPS



Beker Eli wrote:
> 
> how do I know the http/https/ssh outbound traffic I allow on my
> corporate gateways, is not used by p2p applications?
> For Trojans/worms using those ports, we usually use a good
> antivirus. do we have something similar to catch all those
> commercial and
> others apps using well known ports to send their traffic
> stealthily? do we need the IDS to recognize them? like it know
> backdoors...

Once this stuff starts using https or ssh, we're all
in a boatload of trouble without desktop configuration 
control unless we want to restrict traffic to particular 
hosts.

The only way out of that that I can think of is an SSL proxy-like
device through which all https sessions must travel so you can do
IDS/firewalling/content management on the inside...assuming you 
trust the inside and all your web sites trust the SSL proxy. :)

Back to square one...maintain the computers.

- -- 
Gary Flynn
Security Engineer - Technical Services
James Madison University

Please R.U.N.S.A.F.E.
http://www.jmu.edu/computing/runsafe
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