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Matthias commented on IMPALA-4018:
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[~grahn], [~gaborkaszab]: Thanks for the good offline discussion and the
clarification on why you would like to have _only_ the SQL-style date pattern
for the `CAST` function.
In short:
The `TO_TIMESTAMP` and `FROM_TIMESTAMP` should be considered as the "old" APIs
(and we might in the future to either deprecate them or update them to support
the SQL-style) and the `CAST` API should be considered as the "new" one. Having
both at the same time allows people to seamlessly migrate from one to the other.
In addition we also have to consider tool vendors that already have implemented
the "old" API (and might be unwilling to change that one) and ensure that they
continue to work properly.
> Add support for SQL:2016 datetime templates/patterns/masks to CAST(... AS ...
> FORMAT <template>)
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: IMPALA-4018
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IMPALA-4018
> Project: IMPALA
> Issue Type: New Feature
> Components: Frontend
> Affects Versions: Impala 2.2.4
> Reporter: Greg Rahn
> Assignee: Gabor Kaszab
> Priority: Critical
> Labels: ansi-sql, compatibility, sql-language
>
> *Summary*
> The format masks/templates for currently are implemented using the [Java
> SimpleDateFormat
> patterns|http://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/api/java/text/SimpleDateFormat.html],
> and although this is what Hive has implemented, it is not what most standard
> SQL systems implement. For example see
> [Vertica|https://my.vertica.com/docs/7.2.x/HTML/Content/Authoring/SQLReferenceManual/Functions/Formatting/TemplatePatternsForDateTimeFormatting.htm],
>
> [Netezza|http://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSULQD_7.2.1/com.ibm.nz.dbu.doc/r_dbuser_ntz_sql_extns_templ_patterns_date_time_conv.html],
>
> [Oracle|https://docs.oracle.com/database/121/SQLRF/sql_elements004.htm#SQLRF00212],
> and
> [PostgreSQL|https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.5/static/functions-formatting.html#FUNCTIONS-FORMATTING-DATETIME-TABLE].
>
> *Examples of incompatibilities*
> {noformat}
> -- PostgreSQL/Netezza/Vertica/Oracle
> select to_timestamp('May 15, 2015 12:00:00', 'mon dd, yyyy hh:mi:ss');
> -- Impala
> select to_timestamp('May 15, 2015 12:00:00', 'MMM dd, yyyy HH:mm:ss');
> -- PostgreSQL/Netezza/Vertica/Oracle
> select to_timestamp('2015-02-14 20:19:07','yyyy-mm-dd hh24:mi:ss');
> -- Impala
> select to_timestamp('2015-02-14 20:19:07','yyyy-MM-dd HH:mm:ss');
> -- Vertica/Oracle
> select to_timestamp('2015-02-14 20:19:07.123456','yyyy-mm-dd hh24:mi:ss.ff');
> -- Impala
> select to_timestamp('2015-02-14 20:19:07.123456','yyyy-MM-dd
> HH:mm:ss.SSSSSS');
> {noformat}
> *Considerations*
> Because this is a change in default behavior for to_timestamp(), if possible,
> having a feature flag to revert to the legacy Java SimpleDateFormat patterns
> should be strongly considered. This would allow users to chose the behavior
> they desire and scope it to a session if need be.
> SQL:2016 defines the following datetime templates
> {noformat}
> <datetime template> ::=
> { <datetime template part> }...
> <datetime template part> ::=
> <datetime template field>
> | <datetime template delimiter>
> <datetime template field> ::=
> <datetime template year>
> | <datetime template rounded year>
> | <datetime template month>
> | <datetime template day of month>
> | <datetime template day of year>
> | <datetime template 12-hour>
> | <datetime template 24-hour>
> | <datetime template minute>
> | <datetime template second of minute>
> | <datetime template second of day>
> | <datetime template fraction>
> | <datetime template am/pm>
> | <datetime template time zone hour>
> | <datetime template time zone minute>
> <datetime template delimiter> ::=
> <minus sign>
> | <period>
> | <solidus>
> | <comma>
> | <apostrophe>
> | <semicolon>
> | <colon>
> | <space>
> <datetime template year> ::=
> YYYY | YYY | YY | Y
> <datetime template rounded year> ::=
> RRRR | RR
> <datetime template month> ::=
> MM
> <datetime template day of month> ::=
> DD
> <datetime template day of year> ::=
> DDD
> <datetime template 12-hour> ::=
> HH | HH12
> <datetime template 24-hour> ::=
> HH24
> <datetime template minute> ::=
> MI
> <datetime template second of minute> ::=
> SS
> <datetime template second of day> ::=
> SSSSS
> <datetime template fraction> ::=
> FF1 | FF2 | FF3 | FF4 | FF5 | FF6 | FF7 | FF8 | FF9
> <datetime template am/pm> ::=
> A.M. | P.M.
> <datetime template time zone hour> ::=
> TZH
> <datetime template time zone minute> ::=
> TZM
> {noformat}
> SQL:2016 also introduced the FORMAT clause for CAST which is the standard way
> to do string <> datetime conversions
> {noformat}
> <cast specification> ::=
> CAST <left paren>
> <cast operand> AS <cast target>
> [ FORMAT <cast template> ]
> <right paren>
> <cast operand> ::=
> <value expression>
> | <implicitly typed value specification>
> <cast target> ::=
> <domain name>
> | <data type>
> <cast template> ::=
> <character string literal>
> {noformat}
> For example:
> {noformat}
> CAST(<datetime> AS <char string type> [FORMAT <template>])
> CAST(<char string> AS <datetime type> [FORMAT <template>])
> cast(dt as string format 'DD-MM-YYYY')
> cast('01-05-2017' as date format 'DD-MM-YYYY')
> {noformat}
> *Update*
> Here is the proposal for the new datetime patterns and their semantics:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1V7k6-lrPGW7_uhqM-FhKl3QsxwCRy69v2KIxPsGjc1k/
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