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ASF GitHub Bot logged work on ARTEMIS-5573:
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                Author: ASF GitHub Bot
            Created on: 01/Apr/26 21:33
            Start Date: 01/Apr/26 21:33
    Worklog Time Spent: 10m 
      Work Description: clebertsuconic commented on code in PR #6323:
URL: https://github.com/apache/artemis/pull/6323#discussion_r3024772981


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artemis-protocols/artemis-amqp-protocol/src/main/java/org/apache/activemq/artemis/protocol/amqp/broker/AMQPMessage.java:
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@@ -119,6 +118,12 @@
  */
 public abstract class AMQPMessage extends RefCountMessage implements 
org.apache.activemq.artemis.api.core.Message {
 
+   // The basic (minimal) size an AMQP message uses.
+   // This is an estimate, and it's based on the following test:
+   // By running AMQPGlobalMaxTest::testSendUntilOME, you look at the initial 
memory used by the broker without any messages.
+   // By the time you get the OME, you can do some bare calculations on how 
much each message uses and get an AVG.
+   public static final int AMQP_OFFSET = 1300;

Review Comment:
   I used offset as it was a term used back then... as we "Imagined" allocation 
tables/  offsets.. whatever fancy terms we used many years ago. (from 
core/offset.. same thing)
   
   MINIMUM_SIZE_ESTIMATE is a much better term.. I agree.. 
   
   
   thanks





Issue Time Tracking
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    Worklog Id:     (was: 1012810)
    Time Spent: 20m  (was: 10m)

> Make AMQP Size immutable
> ------------------------
>
>                 Key: ARTEMIS-5573
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARTEMIS-5573
>             Project: Artemis
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: AMQP
>    Affects Versions: 2.41.0
>            Reporter: Clebert Suconic
>            Assignee: Clebert Suconic
>            Priority: Major
>              Labels: pull-request-available
>          Time Spent: 20m
>  Remaining Estimate: 0h
>
> I have had a lot of issues, even recently on races between re-evaluating a 
> message size in AMQP.
> Say a lazy decode happens at the wrong time and the memory estimates can be 
> wrong.
> We have fixed issues along the years, but this is still a fragile process 
> that is bound to fail. If an user for instance add a plugin breaking the 
> chain of events.
> For that reason the memory estimate should already include enough estimation 
> for any properties decoded and the process should be simplified.
> Less moving parts would mean less possibilities for bugs.



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