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Timo Walther commented on FLINK-23402:
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Thanks for the feedback [~sewen]. I was also struggling with
{{StreamExecutionEnvironment.setExchangeMode()}}, esp. if this setting is
important enough to have it top-level or whether we should hide it only behind
a {{ConfigOption}}. We will need a {{ConfigOption}} in any case, but I like the
idea of overloading {{setRuntimeMode}} to:
{code}
env.setRuntimeMode(RuntimeMode.BATCH)
env.setRuntimeMode(RuntimeMode.BATCH.withPipelinedExchanges())
env.setRuntimeMode(RuntimeMode.BATCH.withPipelinedForwardExchanges())
{code}
Let's postpone {{POINTWISE_EDGES_PIPELINED}} and
{{ALL_EDGES_PIPELINED_APPROXIMATE}} and make those only available via
{{ConfigOption}}.
> Expose a consistent GlobalDataExchangeMode
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>
> Key: FLINK-23402
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-23402
> Project: Flink
> Issue Type: Sub-task
> Components: API / DataStream
> Reporter: Timo Walther
> Priority: Major
>
> The Table API makes the {{GlobalDataExchangeMode}} configurable via
> {{table.exec.shuffle-mode}}.
> In Table API batch mode the StreamGraph is configured with
> {{ALL_EDGES_BLOCKING}} and in DataStream API batch mode
> {{FORWARD_EDGES_PIPELINED}}.
> I would vote for unifying the exchange mode of both APIs so that complex SQL
> pipelines behave identical in {{StreamTableEnvironment}} and
> {{TableEnvironment}}. Also the feedback a got so far would make
> {{ALL_EDGES_BLOCKING}} a safer option to run pipelines successfully with
> limited resources.
> [~lzljs3620320]
> {noformat}
> The previous history was like this:
> - The default value is pipeline, and we find that many times due to
> insufficient resources, the deployment will hang. And the typical use of
> batch jobs is small resources running large parallelisms, because in batch
> jobs, the granularity of failover is related to the amount of data processed
> by a single task. The smaller the amount of data, the faster the fault
> tolerance. So most of the scenarios are run with small resources and large
> parallelisms, little by little slowly running.
> - Later, we switched the default value to blocking. We found that the better
> blocking shuffle implementation would not slow down the running speed much.
> We tested tpc-ds and it took almost the same time.
> {noformat}
> [~dwysakowicz]
> {noformat}
> I don't see a problem with changing the default value for DataStream batch
> mode if you think ALL_EDGES_BLOCKING is the better default option.
> {noformat}
> In any case, we should make this configurable for DataStream API users and
> make the specific Table API option obsolete.
> It would include the following steps:
> - Move {{GlobalDataExchangeMode}} from {{o.a.f.streaming.api.graph}} to
> {{o.a.f.api.common}} (with reworked JavaDocs) as {{ExchangeMode}} (to have it
> shorter) next to {{RuntimeMode}}
> - Add {{StreamExecutionEnvironment.setExchangeMode()}} next to
> {{setRuntimeMode}}
> - Add option {{execution.exchange-mode}}
> - Add checks for invalid combinations to StreamGraphGenerator
> - Deprecate ExecutionMode ([avoid
> confusion|https://stackoverflow.com/questions/68335472/what-is-difference-in-runtimeexecutionmode-and-executionmode])
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