loserwang1024 commented on code in PR #3511:
URL: https://github.com/apache/fluss/pull/3511#discussion_r3458960225


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fluss-server/src/main/java/org/apache/fluss/server/RpcServiceBase.java:
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@@ -614,6 +623,15 @@ protected MetadataResponse processMetadataRequest(
         long[] partitionIds = request.getPartitionsIds();
         List<Long> partitionIdsNotExistsInCache = new ArrayList<>();
         for (long partitionId : partitionIds) {
+            // Fast-path: throw immediately for partition IDs known to not 
exist,

Review Comment:
   I  think negative cache check should NOT be placed before metadata cache 
lookup.
   
   Problem scenario — a race condition exists:
   1. A new partition is being created; its ID has been assigned.
   2. A client sends a metadata request, but the server's metadata cache hasn't 
synced yet, and ZK may not have the entry written yet either.
   3. Server queries ZK, finds nothing → calls markNonExistent(partitionId).
   4. Partition creation completes; metadata cache is updated via ZK watch.
   5. Subsequent requests are blocked by the negative cache and can never 
retrieve the now-existing partition.
   
   Suggested fix: Move the negative cache check to after the metadata cache 
lookup but before the ZK query:



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fluss-server/src/main/java/org/apache/fluss/server/metadata/PartitionNegativeCache.java:
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@@ -0,0 +1,141 @@
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+
+package org.apache.fluss.server.metadata;
+
+import org.apache.fluss.annotation.VisibleForTesting;
+import org.apache.fluss.utils.clock.Clock;
+import org.apache.fluss.utils.clock.SystemClock;
+
+import javax.annotation.concurrent.ThreadSafe;
+
+import java.time.Duration;
+import java.util.concurrent.ConcurrentHashMap;
+import java.util.concurrent.atomic.AtomicLong;
+
+/**
+ * A thread-safe negative cache for partition IDs that are known to not exist 
in ZooKeeper.
+ *
+ * <p>This cache helps reduce ZooKeeper pressure when clients repeatedly 
request metadata for
+ * partitions that have been deleted (e.g., during hourly partition rotation). 
Instead of querying
+ * ZK every time, we cache the "not exist" result and return it directly.
+ *
+ * <p>The cache uses access-time-based TTL: entries are evicted after a 
configurable duration of no
+ * access. As long as clients keep asking for the same non-existent partition, 
the cache entry stays
+ * alive and protects ZK.
+ */
+@ThreadSafe
+public class PartitionNegativeCache {
+
+    /** Default TTL for negative cache entries: 10 minutes of no access. */
+    private static final Duration DEFAULT_TTL = Duration.ofMinutes(10);
+
+    /**
+     * Cleanup interval: only run eviction check when at least this many 
milliseconds have passed
+     * since the last cleanup.
+     */
+    private static final long CLEANUP_INTERVAL_MS = 60_000;
+
+    private final ConcurrentHashMap<Long, Long> cache;

Review Comment:
   Why not useUse Guava Cache but  implementation by yourself? 
   
   1. **Unreliable expiration cleanup** — maybeCleanup() is only called inside 
markNonExistent(). If no new partitions are marked as non-existent for a long 
time (in practice, markNonExistent is only triggered after a ZK query confirms 
non-existence), expired entries will linger in memory indefinitely. While 
isKnownNonExistent() lazily removes individual expired entries, it never 
performs a full sweep.
   2. **The project already has shaded Guava, so you can use it directly**:
   ```java
   import org.apache.fluss.shaded.guava32.com.google.common.cache.Cache;
   import org.apache.fluss.shaded.guava32.com.google.common.cache.CacheBuilder;
   
   private final Cache<Long, Boolean> negativeCache = CacheBuilder.newBuilder()
       .expireAfterAccess(10, TimeUnit.MINUTES)
       .maximumSize(10000)  // prevent OOM in extreme cases
       .build();
   ```
   3. Advantages of Guava Cache:
   * Automatic eviction: access-time-based TTL without manual maintenance
   * Bounded size: maximumSize prevents unbounded growth (the current 
implementation has no size limit)
   * Battle-tested thread safety: no need to roll your own CAS logic
   
   @wuchong ,WDYT?
   



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