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Michal Biesek commented on KUDU-2990:
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Hi,

My name is Michal Biesek and I am currently working as a Lead Developer on a 
memkind project.
I am more than happy to answer your burning questions and help you find a 
common solution to the issue you're having.
Libnuma is used by memkind and is a part of one of its core functionality and 
changes related to this dependency will be challenging. It is worth mentioning 
that our library will be using other libraries on LGPL license in the future.

Do not hesitate to reach out to me with any of your problems as we are open to 
any suggestions.

Best Regards Michal

> Kudu can't distribute libnuma (dependency of memkind)
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: KUDU-2990
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KUDU-2990
>             Project: Kudu
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: util
>    Affects Versions: 1.10.0, 1.11.0, 1.12.0
>            Reporter: Adar Dembo
>            Assignee: Adar Dembo
>            Priority: Blocker
>
> I noticed in [this 
> commit|https://github.com/apache/kudu/commit/973e5cdf8fbcedcdcc659d980f3a3a69dc4f109f]
>  that libnuma (a dependency of memkind) is licensed under the LGPL. This 
> means that we can't distribute it as per the [ASF 3rd party license 
> policy|https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x].
> Some background: memkind was added as a new thirdparty dependency in 1.10.0. 
> It replaced the libraries provided by [PMDK|https://pmem.io/pmdk/], and is 
> used to power our generic non-volatile memory cache implementation, which can 
> be configured as a replacement for the standard DRAM-based block cache.
> I spent some time looking into whether our use of memkind actually calls into 
> libnuma and unfortunately I think the answer is yes: when we map a pmem 
> region via memkind, it creates an arena with which to do allocations, and 
> that allocates some per-CPU data structures. The precise number of structures 
> is derived from a call into libnuma.
> We'll need to find a creative solution to this problem. Some ideas:
> # Restrict libnuma to build time and expect it on the host system at runtime. 
> We do this for some libraries already, like libsasl. I see libnuma installed 
> on my laptop (Ubuntu 18) as well as on CentOS 6.6 and 7.3 machines we use for 
> development. On my laptop the reverse dependencies look significant enough 
> that it's likely installed by default, but I can't guarantee that everywhere, 
> nor is it guaranteed for all sorts of funky container images users will no 
> doubt put Kudu in.
> # Like #1 but also patch memkind to dlopen() libnuma so that if it can't be 
> found, whatever memkind function is currently running returns an error. 
> That's a much better failure mode than "the Kudu process can't start", but 
> it's unclear how much work this would be.
> # Make the NVM cache implementation fully optional and excise it from the 
> default Kudu distribution. I say "fully optional" because it's already 
> somewhat optional: the CMake logic allows for it (and memkind, and libnuma) 
> to not exist on macOS where that stuff apparently just doesn't work. Still, 
> this would be frustrating for users who wish to use the NVM cache out of the 
> box.
> I'm not sure what needs to happen to 1.10.0 (first release with the libnuma 
> dependency) and with 1.11.0 (imminently releasing). Could someone with more 
> experience in ASF legal matters weigh in?



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