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Michael Sokolov commented on LUCENE-10421:
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 I think we have always had this time-dependent random seed in the HNSW 
indexing code, so I'm curious how benchmarks were working before?

> Non-deterministic results from KnnVectorQuery?
> ----------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: LUCENE-10421
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10421
>             Project: Lucene - Core
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: Michael McCandless
>            Priority: Major
>
> [Nightly benchmarks|https://home.apache.org/~mikemccand/lucenebench/] have 
> been upset for the past ~1.5 weeks because it looks like {{KnnVectorQuery}} 
> is giving slightly different results on every run, even on an identical 
> (deterministically constructed – single thread indexing, flush by doc count, 
> {{{}SerialMergeSchedule{}}}, {{{}LogDocCountMergePolicy{}}}, etc.) index each 
> night.  It produces failures like this, which then abort the benchmark to 
> help us catch any recent accidental bug that alters our precise top N search 
> hits and scores:
> {noformat}
>  Traceback (most recent call last):
>  File “/l/util.nightly/src/python/nightlyBench.py”, line 2177, in <module>
>   run()
>  File “/l/util.nightly/src/python/nightlyBench.py”, line 1225, in run
>   raise RuntimeError(‘search result differences: %s’ % str(errors))
> RuntimeError: search result differences: 
> [“query=KnnVectorQuery:vector[-0.07267512,...][10] filter=None sort=None 
> groupField=None hitCount=10: hit 4 has wrong field/score value ([20844660], 
> ‘0.92060816’) vs ([254438\
> 06], ‘0.920046’)“, “query=KnnVectorQuery:vector[-0.12073054,...][10] 
> filter=None sort=None groupField=None hitCount=10: hit 7 has wrong 
> field/score value ([25501982], ‘0.99630797’) vs ([13688085], ‘0.9961489’)“, 
> “qu\
> ery=KnnVectorQuery:vector[0.02227773,...][10] filter=None sort=None 
> groupField=None hitCount=10: hit 0 has wrong field/score value ([4741915], 
> ‘0.9481132’) vs ([14220828], ‘0.9579846’)“, “query=KnnVectorQuery:vector\
> [0.024077624,...][10] filter=None sort=None groupField=None hitCount=10: hit 
> 0 has wrong field/score value ([7472373], ‘0.8460249’) vs ([12577825], 
> ‘0.8378446’)“]{noformat}
> At first I thought this might be expected because of the recent (awesome!!) 
> improvements to HNSW, so I tried to simply "regold".  But the regold did not 
> "take", so it indeed looks like there is some non-determinism here.
> I pinged [~msoko...@gmail.com] and he found this random seeding that is most 
> likely the cause?
> {noformat}
> public final class HnswGraphBuilder {
>   /** Default random seed for level generation * */
>   private static final long DEFAULT_RAND_SEED = System.currentTimeMillis(); 
> {noformat}
> Can we somehow make this deterministic instead?  Or maybe the nightly 
> benchmarks could somehow pass something in to make results deterministic for 
> benchmarking?  Or ... we could also relax the benchmarks to accept 
> non-determinism for {{KnnVectorQuery}} task?



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