On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 8:33 AM Oswald Buddenhagen
<oswald.buddenha...@gmx.de> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jun 07, 2021 at 09:23:35PM -0500, Felipe Contreras wrote:
> >On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 5:42 AM Oswald Buddenhagen
> ><oswald.buddenha...@gmx.de> wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jun 07, 2021 at 04:52:23AM -0500, Felipe Contreras wrote:
> >> >On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 8:28 PM Oswald Buddenhagen
> >> ><oswald.buddenha...@gmx.de> wrote:
> >> >> no, you're not. the use of "instead" would make no sense at all if it
> >> >> referred to the same thing.
> >> >
> >> >Not true. If a documentation says I can edit ~/.gitconfig, or
> >> >$XDG_CONFIG_HOME/git/config instead, does that mean it cannot
> >> >logically refer to the same thing?
> >> >
> >> of course it does.
> >
> >We'll have to agree to disagree. ~/.gitconfig and
> >$XDG_CONFIG_HOME/git/config are semantically the same thing.
> >
> that's a plain wrong statement. these are distinct files whose contents
> are cascaded.

Wrong. Nothing cascades.

$XDG_CONFIG_HOME/git/config is *exactly* the same as ~/.gitconfig
(just a different name for the same thing).

> >> >I can use "begin", or I can use "start" instead. Can they be the same
> >> >thing? Ostensibly yes.
> >> >
> >> these are obviously synonyms, without semantic difference.
> >
> >Exactly. In other words: two different ways of saying the same thing.
>
> >Just like `Inbox = ~/mail/inbox` and `Path = ~/mail/; MapIndex =
> >inbox`, which the user would be totally justified in deducing from the
> >documentation.
> >
> no, they wouldn't be. it's only the same thing if you ignore pertinent
> context. which is something that you seem rather prone to ...

A writer cannot tell his readers that they are reading his text wrong.

If the text fails to transmits what the writer intended, the writer
failed. Period.

There's a reason expert writers hire copy editors. There's no shame in
accepting one's text can be improved.

> >> >Can you show me an example of a Maildir store that uses MapInbox
> >> >correctly?
> >> >
> >> i could, but the point was mostly that one would use it on an IMAP store
> >> instead.
> >
> >Then what is it doing in "All Stores"? It belongs in "IMAP Stores".
> >
> it *does* work for all stores when used correctly. that one would
> typically have little reason to actually use it is a different matter,
> and the docu makes the appropriate recommendation.

Except nobody understands what it actually does. Even you yourself
admitted you had to look at the code to understand what it was
supposed to do for a given configuration [1]. That should tell you
something.

> >Or better yet: 1) if users can't seem to understand what it does 2)
> >nobody uses it, and 3) the main developer doesn't even recall what it's
> >for, maybe deprecate it.
> >
> i already came to the same conclusion, but i want to extend the Patterns
> syntax first (see TODO file), so the imap-imap corner case remains
> covered.

All right. It's not a big deal, but seems to be an unnecessary remnant.

Cheers.

[1] https://sourceforge.net/p/isync/mailman/message/37297040/

-- 
Felipe Contreras


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