So why not simply write a Digital Signature Handler plugin for  
Acrobat/Reader?  That's what they are for...

Leonard

On Aug 28, 2007, at 3:07 PM, Martin Paljak wrote:

>
> On 28.08.2007, at 15:53, Paulo Soares wrote:
>
>> Each time a signature is applied new ids are created. Signing the
>> same PDF
>> twice will never have the same hash.
> That's not a requirement. The only requirement is to have a single
> PDF and a single signature that should be verifiable only with
> special software (that knows how to extract the needed information
> and knows what to do with the external signature format and how to
> verify it).
>
> The signature in embedded in the PDF file has nothing to do with PDF
> signatures - it should not be possible to verify it  with adobe
> reader for example - only if a special plugin is installed.
>
> The idea is to have a proprietary signature format encapsulated into
> the PDF so that the end user would see a normal PDF with a 'unknown
> signature' but with special software it would be possible to turn the
> PDF inside out and and get the digital signature payload from inside
> the PDF.
>
> -- 
> Martin Paljak
> http://martin.paljak.pri.ee
>
>
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