Prezados (as),

Prezada Olivia,

Recomendo ler o post CARREIRA PROFISSIONAL EM TI. VALE A PENA INVESTIR TEMPO E 
DINHEIRO NELA? no http://itgovrm.blogspot.com/ para entender melhor a questão 
do emprego.


Cordialmente
Ricardo Mansur
http://itgovrm.blogspot.com
http://twitter.com/itgovrm
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Olivia A. Vassalo 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 3:46 PM
  Subject: RE: [itsm_br] ITIL Certificaton Scheme - Para profissionais ou para 
Fornecedores?


    
  Mas cohen, 

  Como comprovar sua competência, quando se é ainda “nova” como eu e somente um 
curriculo por si só, as vezes não diz tudo?

  Fui declassificada em processos seletivos por nao ter feito uma faculdade de 
renome, por exemplo. Ja ocorreu por duas vezes chegar a ultima etapa e estar 
concorrendo com participantes que tinham até menos experiencia que eu, mas 
estudavam em universidades como PUC, ITA, etc.

  Estou procurando trabalho no momento, e me estou me deparando exatamente com 
esse tipo de problema. Por não ter certificados (ainda) além dos da graduação e 
do pós graduação, não sou selecionada.



  Olivia.



  From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Roberto Cohen
  Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 11:18 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [itsm_br] ITIL Certificaton Scheme - Para profissionais ou para 
Fornecedores?



    

  Gustavo,


  Um profissional para ser competente não precisa de certificação.



  Conheço um jornalista que é gerente de serviços de uma

  mega-empresa multinacional prestadora de serviços de TI.



  E ele foi escolhido não pelas suas medalhas - as quais deve ter -

  mas por sua competência.


  Abraços,



  EL Cohen

  http://twitter.com/robcohen




   

  On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Gustavo Tavares <[email protected]> wrote:

    

  Olá ITSM-Br,

  Na última discussão que eu participei aqui na lista levantei algumas questões 
que, na minha visão, são importantes para avaliar a atuação dos profissionais 
que trabalham com o ITIL; mais especificamente o ITIL v3. Na discussão eu 
questionava a posição assumida pelo ITIL v3 como formulador da estratégia da 
organização. Sua orientação aos market spaces e a definição de strategic assets 
que possibilitariam a organização se posicionar em situação de vantagem no 
mercado. Infelizmente a discussão não prosperou. Ela acabou se limitando a 
aspectos e abordagens que já são consenso entre os praticantes, ficando os 
desacordos restritos mais as questões de semântica do que de conteúdo.

  Gostaria agora de, se me permitem, levantar mais uma polêmica a respeito do 
ITIL v3. Na verdade mais a respeito dos acessórios do que da biblioteca em si. 
Antes de mais nada um disclosure: já trabalhei em consultoria especializada em 
ITIL (uma Accredited Trainer Provider) e hoje trabalho também como consultor de 
um projeto baseado principalmente no ITIL. Mas apesar de defender o ITIL, 
primeiro como fornecedor e agora como consultor, tem um aspecto que sempre me 
incomodou: O porque das barreiras e restrições do modelo de certificação 
profissional? Porque um profissional que deseja se certificar como Practitioner 
ou Manager precisa, obrigatoriamente, passar por um curso de formação de uma 
associação registrada?

  Hoje um profissional que deseja se certificar como Practitioner ou Manager 
(V2 ou V3) precisa, antes de mais nada, passar por um curso ministrado por uma 
ATP. Destes cursos de formação, o mais barato não sai por menos de R$ 3k. Um 
profissional com 10, 15 ou mais anos de experiência em operações de TI, que 
durante os últimos 5 ou 10 anos tem tentado aplicar o ITIL à sua organização 
não pode simplesmente se inscrever para realização de uma prova (com o preço 
médio de U$ 150) e comprovar os seus conhecimentos.Ele tem - obrigatoriamente - 
que passar por um curso ministrado por um profissional que não necessariamente 
possui o mesmo conhecimento e experiência que ele.

  Vejam, não estou tocando aqui em um ponto da minha história particular ou 
fazendo um desabafo. Os cursos de formação dos quais eu participei sempre foram 
ministrados por instrutores muito mais qualificados do que eu. Mas a idéia de 
que: somente um conjunto de empresas, que pagam uma certa taxa anual, possuem 
condições de ler e interpretar os conhecimentos de um conjunto de livros é um 
tanto quanto arrogante. Quer dizer que só a partir do momento que você paga uma 
taxa à EXIN você consegue ler, interpretar e ministrar treinamentos baseado em 
um conjunto de conhecimentos publico? Seria mais ou menos algo como Kaplan e 
Norton dizerem o seguinte: Ninguém que leu os nossos livros entende de Balanced 
Score Card a não ser que nos pague uma taxa. Concordam com esta minha linha de 
raciocínio?

  Em outras palavras: O modelo de certificação é orientado às necessidades dos 
fornecedores ou dos clientes? Ele é criado deste jeito justamente para garantir 
uma reserva de mercado para os ATP? Não seria uma incoerência muito grande que 
um conjunto de conhecimentos público que prega o atendimento das necessidades 
do cliente desconsiderar a necessidade do seu mercado para manter uma estrutura 
de comercialização que privilegia os fornecedores? Enfim, o que vocês acham 
destes pontos por mim levantados?

  Um outro disclosure: Não forneço e nem vou fornecer no futuro serviços de 
treinamento em ITIL. Ou seja, não levanto esta lebre por conta de dificuldades 
que eu encontro no mercado. Eu não trabalho e nem vou trabalhar neste mercado. 
Sou consultor e atualmente estou empregado.

  Abaixo um outro texto que fala um pouco sobre isto e principalmente sobre a 
complexidade que o ITSM traz para os ambientes de TI. Acho que ajuda um pouco 
esta nossa discussão...

  []'s

  Gustavo Tavares
  Lkdin: www.linkedin.com/in/gustavares
  Via6: www.via6.com/gustavares

  Killing the Goose: The Commercialization of ITIL
  July 16, 2009
  By David Mainville

  The commercialization of ITIL is making it overly complex, bureaucratic and 
less effective, writes ITSMWatch columnist David Mainville of Consulting-Portal.

  Like most good things, the development of IT service management (ITSM) 
processes was born out of necessity. Back in the early 1960s the computer 
started moving out of the lab and into the heart of mainstream business. Back 
then only the largest and wealthiest firms could justify having a computer due 
to the immense costs associated with purchasing, maintaining and operating 
these behemoths. 

  These early computers were as finicky as they were expensive. The hardware, 
operating systems and programs of the time were still in their infancy and 
“uptime” was measured in hours. The business, which was footing the bill for 
these systems, was becoming ever more dependent upon these machines and started 
demanding a better return on their investment (and they haven’t stopped since). 

  The sheer volume of outages demanded that a methodology be developed for 
managing incidents, getting to the root cause of problems and for mitigating 
the impact of making changes to the system. And thus an entire industry was 
born. Enterprise Systems Management or as it is now known, IT Service 
Management evolved to meet this challenge. This multi-billion dollar industry 
launched a whole suite of jobs, processes and tools all designed to improve the 
reliability, availability and serviceability of the computing environment. 

  And it worked! The people, process and technology helped nurture computing 
from its infancy to a mature adult where data centers became fully automated 
“lights out” environments with “uptime” measured at 99.999%. 

  And most of this happened before ITIL was even conceived. 

  As most of the readers know ITIL was first published in 1989 by UK 
government’s Central Computer & Telecommunication Agency (CCTA). Like all good 
work it stood on the shoulders of those who came before―it didn’t actually 
invent the processes―but it collected the best practices already in place and 
documented them into a framework all could freely access. 

  Access to these best practices was becoming increasingly important due to 
another development in the IT industry, the introduction of distributed 
computing. By the early 1990s the mainframe environment could be described as 
the mature, reliable and boring “grown-up” of the IT industry. The mainframe 
got the job done but with it was a degree of bureaucracy that the business had 
to accept. Things changed radically when distributed computing burst onto the 
scene. 

  Distributed Computing 

  Distributed computing was everything the mainframe wasn’t. It was fast, bold, 
exciting and promised lower costs and faster implementation times. Distributed 
computing was a young rebel; and a rallying cry against the stodginess and 
bureaucracy of the mainframe. It was the latest celebrity. Well, celebrity has 
a way of fading. We quickly learned that while distributed computing had a lot 
of promise it was still very immature. There were very few tools to manage the 
environment and the support processes developed in the mainframe era were 
viewed as old fashioned and as roadblocks to getting the job done. 

  George Santayana once said: “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned 
to repeat it”. Well, the IT industry not only forgot its past, but it went out 
of its way to ignore it. Support costs for distributed computing skyrocketed. 
Without the right tools and processes, the people costs went through the roof 
as duplicate IT departments were formed to manage this new environment. 

  Once again, out of necessity, the IT industry responded. New support tools 
were developed, organizational structures were rationalized and once again 
process was in vogue. Except now, we were able to leverage the documented 
frameworks such as IBM’s IT Process Model, HP’s ITSM model, Microsoft’s MOF 
and, of course, ITIL. 

  ITIL’s role in communicating the value of process to a new generation of IT 
professionals cannot be ignored. The fact that we now speak a common service 
management language has helped the industry pull together in a common 
direction. The fact that vendors have developed tools that can support and 
automate the processes has helped improve efficiency while reducing support 
costs. Now that senior management are aware of ITIL, well, this is both good 
and bad, but more on that later. 

  ITIL Backlash 

  So, how can I say that ITIL’s success may result in a backlash against ITSM? 
Because I believe that ITIL is turning its back on the past. This public domain 
collection of best practices built by dedicated volunteers is now on the fast 
track to becoming an overly commercialized, complex, bureaucratic and expensive 
endeavor. 

  This may sound hypocritical coming from someone who is an ITSM advocate and a 
partner in a consulting and training company that leverages ITIL best 
practices. But it’s my very passion for service management that is at the root 
of my argument. I have learned over my 30 years in IT that it’s fairly easy to 
design a process or buy a tool. If you want success in ITSM you have to do the 
hard work. 

  It’s not enough to design an incident management process and install a tool 
to support it. You need the dedication and governance to make sure people 
understand why they have to enter an incident; that they enter the right 
information into the incident record; and that someone uses the information for 
continual improvement. The same could be said for any of the ITIL processes. 

  The commercialization of ITIL is taking focus away from doing the hard work 
and is placing it on certifications, compliance schemes and on taking something 
relatively simple and making it overly complex and bureaucratic. The 
introduction of ITIL v3 has placed the focus squarely in the stratosphere with 
the introduction of dozens of new processes, roles and CMDB-like data-stores. 
Schemes are being designed to “certify” a vendor’s tool compliance to ITIL. 
What does that even mean―other than a chance to impose additional cost on the 
vendor? 

  I made a comment earlier in this article about the fact that senior 
management’s awareness of ITIL is both a good thing and a bad thing. It’s 
always good when dedicated IT executives place focus on improving IT services; 
it’s good for IT and it’s good for the business. But if these same executives 
see additional bureaucracy, exercises in empty process design, added costs for 
training and re-training … well, they may just come to the conclusion that ITSM 
is just another management fad straight from the pages of a Dilbert cartoon. 

  It wasn’t long ago that the mainframe, and the people who managed it, were 
ostracized because of their perceived bureaucratic and process heavy approach. 
The business took a detour into distributed computing because it offered the 
promise of freedom and better time to market. Will the business look at ITIL as 
the right path or just another road block put up by the IT department? Will the 
business feel the need to take another detour away from the bureaucracy? 

  I’m not knocking process at all. Effective and efficient processes are 
required to manage the complexities of today’s computing environments. But I 
think its time that we take our heads out of the clouds and focus on the core 
of what makes an it organization run. A successful IT organization needs to fix 
incidents and provision service requests and they need to do it faster, cheaper 
and with a focus on customer service. To do that requires only a handful of 
well designed processes, the necessary tools to automate and a focus on 
execution. 

  I believe there is a real danger of an overly-hyped and commercialized ITIL 
leading people down the wrong path having them focus on the wrong things. This 
of course will result in failure and lead to a backlash against the very thing 
that can help IT be more effective in supporting the business. Let’s not repeat 
the mistakes of the past. Let’s learn from our mistakes and apply process in a 
practical, lean and pragmatic way. Let’s focus on our customer, namely the 
business, and help them do things faster and with better quality. 

  The last thing any IT professional needs is a backlash against the very thing 
that will improve the delivery of services to our clients. 

  David Mainville is CEO and co-founder of Consulting-Portal, an ITSM 
consulting and ITIL training company focused on helping Fortune 500 and 
mid-size companies assess, design and implement robust IT Service Management 
processes. Consulting-Portal also offers a full curriculum of ITSM education 
including: ITIL, ISO and CobiT. 







  

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