De: Andrew Robinson <arobinso...@cox.net> Enviado: quarta-feira, 3 de junho de 2020 19:36 Para: Antonio Scuri Cc: IUP discussion list.; Richard Stallman Assunto: Re: [Iup-users] Fw: IUP License Questions
Hello Antonio, On 2020-06-03 at 10:45 AM, Antonio Scuri <antonio.sc...@gmail.com<mailto:antonio.sc...@gmail.com>> wrote: > I agree with mr Stallman, but I totally disagree with you when you say: >And I agree with Tysen Moore and his lawyers. >"That got my attention because I don't like surprises, so then >Tysen and I both asked Mr Scuri why no mention of this was made in either the >licensing section or in the credit section, he basically said you had to go >find it yourself somewhere within the source code." >I clearly said I clearly said that our secondary libraries are documented in each respective page that states they are >NOT part of our main library. Their licenses are described there. If our secondary library uses a third party library that >is GPL code then this secondary library is also GPL. That's exactly why we left it in a secondary library and NOT in the >main library. Even though all our code is open source and available to everyone use and modify. >"I clearly said...". >We asked for links and you clearly gave none. We asked for examples and you >clearly gave none. That's not being >"clear", that is being evasive. All I'm >asking for (and all I can see that Tysen Moore is asking for), is to pretty >please >include ALL the licenses that the IUP project bundles with IUP, and >put them in one easy-to-find place like the >copyright or credits section of >the IUP WebBook. I don't want to see any more emails about lawyers having an >excuse >to find questionable things in IUP anymore -- agreed? >FYI, I looked at IupTuioClient() and there is no mention of any 3rd party >license. Is that because there is none? Or >maybe the license is buried >somewhere in the source code (something that I am not directed or required to >read or >download in the IUP documentation/WebBook)? Linking to the license on >the Internet in an email or saying the >license is somewhere in the source >code, is not including the license in the documentation as the licenses appear >to >say they must do. The WebBook is required documentation therefore that is >where ALL the licenses by default should >be mentioned, as other companies do. > The secondary libraries are OPTIONAL. If you don't understand that, please > don't use it at all. >Where in the IUP WebBook are any libraries/functions literally documented as >being "OPTIONAL" to IUP? This is all >brand new to me. >"In other words, the WHOLE TRUTH is, only a part of the IUP bundled-framework >can be used for public >commercial applications, unless you want to open source your application, but >they fail to tell you which parts are "completely free" and which are not." > You are not obligated to use all libraries available in IUP. If you use, > the least you can do is to read the >documentation of the library. >Then give a direct link to where IupTuioClient() in the IUP WebBook where it >clearly says it isn't a part of the IUP >licensing. I mean just as one example >of "the right thing to do". > This is your misunderstanding. IUP exists for more than 20 years. >One mistake in 20 years isn't something to be ashamed of, is it? >Several times it has been analyzed for use in commercial applications that are >not free. Our documentation is actually >one thing that I'm proud of, making >clear and being updated in detail for everyone. > Again if you do think this way, please simply don't use it. >I have a better idea: be more transparent about all the licensing requirements >of anything that is not actually a part >of the IUP licensing, as every other >company does. Don't make this more difficult than it has to be. I not agreed. First, No one is forced to do or fail to do something for you, is that CLEAR for you! Second, Everything that the IUP team does for users is nothing more than kindness. Third, if you don't agree with that, you're living in the world of the moon, it's simple, stop using. Ranier Vilela _______________________________________________ Iup-users mailing list Iup-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/iup-users
