Hi,

There, you see you do have the same tuners as me. Even though yours are Rev 
D391 they are still FQ1216AME MK4 tuners 
and I suspect until they get supported you will never have a "good" picture. I 
also suspect that nearly all PAL PVR500 
cards will have the same tuners.

I had the same problem with selecting PAL_B as well and used a different 
version of AMCAP which enabled me to switch 
them over and after that it was sweet using AMCAP or the other program to 
display live TV. I think the name of the 
other program was like AMCAP32 or something. Google for AMCAP and see what 
comes up, that's what I did.

Conclusion:
Until Tuner #91 is supported or another tuner module is made compatible then 
its really a waste of time. I am very 
fussy about picture quality.

Cheers
Grant



> Here's the info you requested:
> 
> Hardware Model 23559
> Driver Version 2.0.18.22316
> Firmware Version 2.5.32
> Audio Firmware Version 1.3.30
> 
> Model 23559 Rev D391
> Serial No: 7743563
> 
> Tuner[1]: Model 91 (Philips FQ1216AME_MK4)
> Tuner[2]: Model 101 (Philips TEA5768HL) (With Radio)
> Tuner[1]: Model 91 (Philips FQ1216AME_MK4)
> Decoder: 30
> AudioIC 37
> 
> Input Map: C=0x000f S=0x0003
> 
> AMCAP gives me a lousy picture. Appearantly it won't allow me to set it 
> to PAL-B, but it could be that this is just because I don't run WinXP 
> MCE as I don't have it. Just running XP.
> 
> If anyone would like me to test something else on Windows plz let me 
> know soon. I need to empty the disk.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Grant wrote:
> 
> >Hi,
> >
> >Mine definitely is NICAM so I think you will find that once you have it
> >running right yours will be too.
> >
> >You can download the "CD" from Hauppauge's site:
> >http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/support/support_mce.html
> >
> >This does have the AMCAP program so you should be all set.
> >
> >Let me know your findings, I'd almost bet you have #91 tuners too as your
> >picture that you posted is identical to mine with the exception that yours
> >are Rev 391 and mine are Rev 291 which may make them different. However
> >using the AMCAP program to tell you exactly what they are I think is
> >worthwhile.
> >
> >See how you go.
> >
> >If you do have #91 tuners then until the drivers are built for them I
> >seriously doubt that you will get a good picture. As I said in a previous
> >reply I am at the moment using XP and MediaPortal and have an outstanding
> >picture and cant wait for them to be supported in Linux. They are truly
> >excellent cards.
> >
> >Cheers
> >Grant 
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Freaky
> >Sent: Monday, 31 January 2005 8:19 p.m.
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: RE: [ivtv-devel] Hauppauge PVR-500 MCE (OEM) almost perfect
> >
> >K I'll install XP on a disk I have lying around. Than I can be sure about
> >what I have too.
> >
> >Somebody else asked me if the sound is mono, it sure sounds like that.
> >Don't hear any difference between left and right on the music stations, so I
> >guess it can be added to my list of problems.
> >
> >Hmm, btw, I don't have a CD... this OEM version came with nothing besides
> >the static-bag the card was in. Hope that amcap util is in the driver d/l.
> >
> >regards
> >
> >On Sun, January 30, 2005 23:16, Grant said:
> >  
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>The easiest way to tell what the tuners are from my experience is to 
> >>load up XP (or whatever) and load the drivers etc etc and then run the 
> >>amcap program that comes on the CD. One of the menu options lets you 
> >>make a selection that brings up a series of tabs and one contains all 
> >>the details on the tuners.
> >>
> >>This is what I got from mine:
> >>Firmware Version 2.5.32
> >>
> >>Audio Firmware Version 1.3.30
> >>
> >>Model 23559 Rev D291
> >>Serial No: 7725589
> >>Tuner[1]: Model 91 (Philips FQ1216AME_MK4)
> >>Decoder: 30
> >>AudioIC: 37
> >>
> >>Input Map: C= 0x000f, S= 0x0003
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Firmware Version 2.5.32
> >>
> >>Audio Firmware Version 1.3.30
> >>
> >>Model 23559 Rev D291
> >>Serial No: 7725589
> >>Tuner[1]: Model 91 (Philips FQ1216AME_MK4)
> >>Tuner[2]: Model 101 (Philips TEA5768HL)  (With Radio)
> >>Decoder: 30
> >>AudioIC: 37
> >>
> >>Input Map: C= 0x000f, S= 0x0003
> >>
> >>
> >>As you can see it is very clear what tuners I have got.
> >>
> >>Any ideas anyone?
> >>
> >>Cheers
> >>Grant
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Freaky
> >>Sent: Monday, 31 January 2005 10:51 a.m.
> >>To: [email protected]
> >>Subject: RE: [ivtv-devel] Hauppauge PVR-500 MCE (OEM) almost perfect
> >>
> >>I'd like to tell you what tuners I have but I have no idea :(. Tried 
> >>to pull of the stickers of the tuners gently, and I can see PHILIPS 
> >>sinked into the case, but the sticker below it is split in two and the 
> >>part I should read is stuck to the bottom of the sticker on top. 
> >>Judging by the stickers stating PAL-B/G-I-D/K-SECAM Philips PAL multi 
> >>would be a good possibility tho'.
> >>
> >>I just rebooted and came to the conclusion sound was gone. Had to 
> >>reload some modules a couple of times for it to work. Seen others on 
> >>the list with the same problem. Don't have sound on all channels tho'.
> >>
> >>Channels are a _bit_ blurry here. Although some appear pretty well.
> >>Perhaps it has to do with the mpeg bitrate being used, I believe it 
> >>can be set. Will look into that.
> >>
> >>You can however view detailed photos
> >>http://freaky.bananateam.nl/pvr500-1.jpg
> >>http://freaky.bananateam.nl/pvr500-2.jpg
> >>
> >>and I'll forward you a message I sent to some else with info for his 
> >>website www.bttv-gallery.de
> >>
> >>regards
> >>
> >>On Sun, January 30, 2005 22:05, Grant said:
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>
> >>>If you don't mind me asking, what are the Tuners on your card?
> >>>
> >>>Mine are Philips FQ1216AME MK4 ones that appear unsupported and no 
> >>>one here seems to be able to offer any advice on when they will be 
> >>>supported or how I can find support for them. I would be more than 
> >>>willing to offer something in return for help but not sure how to 
> >>>approach this as I am pretty new to linux. Nice post "Re: 
> >>>[ivtv-devel] Investigating the "tveeprom-ivtv"
> >>>problem" by D. Hugh Redelmeier.
> >>>
> >>>I can get picture etc using tuner=52 as well but it is blurry etc and 
> >>>I wonder if you also have the same tuners as me.
> >>>
> >>>I have tried FC2 and FC3 and had no success whatsoever and use 
> >>>Mandrake
> >>>10.1
> >>>with very little trouble at all. I have also used KnoppMyth and 
> >>>upgraded the Kernel to 2.6.8 and achieved varying degrees of success 
> >>>but the limiting factor for me are still the tuners.
> >>>
> >>>I have for the moment given up and gone back to a M$ solution due to 
> >>>lack of information/support on these tuners but MythTV IMHO leaves 
> >>>almost all other PVR solutions behind and I really really wanna go 
> >>>back to using it. I used to use a Leadtek Wintv2000XP but want dual 
> >>>tuners and MPEG etc that the PVR500 offers.
> >>>
> >>>I wonder how many other people out there are having similar issues 
> >>>due to having these tuners?
> >>>
> >>>Cheers
> >>>Grant
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Freaky
> >>>Sent: Monday, 31 January 2005 9:24 a.m.
> >>>To: [email protected]
> >>>Subject: [ivtv-devel] Hauppauge PVR-500 MCE (OEM) almost perfect
> >>>
> >>>Hey there,
> >>>
> >>>as of now I have my Hauppauge PVR-500 MCE (OEM) almost working 
> >>>perfectly.
> >>>Only problems I have now:
> >>>
> >>>* Picture is a bit blurry on some channels
> >>>* Picture looks a bit moved (small black bar on the left vertically, 
> >>>estimated 8px or so)
> >>>* Sound is some times noisy (this may be due to not grounding the 
> >>>electricity, although the tv cable should be grounded now, in my 
> >>>other house with other cards i had noise problems all the time on my 
> >>>soundcard due to a ground difference between the electricity and the 
> >>>tv cable)
> >>>* Sound sometimes takes up to a couple of minutes to appear. Mostly 
> >>>it's instant. Not sure yet if it's channel dependant.
> >>>
> >>>Have succesfully played both tuners simultaneous on screen with 
> >>>mplayer /dev/video0 and mplayer /dev/video1 on XP1800+ with nvidia 
> >>>card (+ nvidia
> >>>drivers) with [EMAIL PROTECTED] client still crunching at 44%
> >>>
> >>>I'm in the netherlands
> >>>http://www.casema.nl/portal/page?_pageid=53,88754&_dad=portal&_schema
> >>>=
> >>>PORTAL
> >>>&_piref53_89325_53_88754.programma_overzicht_next_page=/htdocs/progra
> >>>m
> >>>maover
> >>>zicht/ProgrammaOverzichtTvFrequenties.jsp&_piref53_89325_53_88754.pla
> >>>a tsnaam =Breda&_piref53_89325_53_88754.pakket=standaard
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Using:
> >>>ivtv 0.3.2c
> >>>kernel 2.4.11-rc1
> >>>gentoo linux (~x86)
> >>>modprobe ivtv ivtv_std=2,2 tuner=52,52 tda9887=2
> >>>
> >>>0000:02:08.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc
> >>>iTVC16
> >>>(CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)
> >>>        Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works Inc.: Unknown device e807
> >>>        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 19
> >>>        Memory at d8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable)
> >>>        Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2
> >>>
> >>>0000:02:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc
> >>>iTVC16
> >>>(CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)
> >>>        Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works Inc.: Unknown device e817
> >>>        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 16
> >>>        Memory at d4000000 (32-bit, prefetchable)
> >>>        Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>0000:02:08.0 Class 0400: 4444:0016 (rev 01)
> >>>        Subsystem: 0070:e807
> >>>        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 19
> >>>        Memory at d8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable)
> >>>        Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2
> >>>
> >>>0000:02:09.0 Class 0400: 4444:0016 (rev 01)
> >>>        Subsystem: 0070:e817
> >>>        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 16
> >>>        Memory at d4000000 (32-bit, prefetchable)
> >>>        Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2
> >>>
> >>>
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