Thanks, Rudy, for the information but I'm still not doing well.
Mplayer doesn't like me doing pvr:// as it says it was compiled
without that support and v4l2 but it is.......that's maybe a separate
issue.  I understand that my version of Hauppaugepvr 150 (windows
media center edtion) does not come with hardware mpeg encoder.  Will
v4l2 still work for me?

Richard

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