On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 20:15 -0400, Andy Walls wrote:
> > > 
> > 
> > Please find the output attached, however I provide only 1 stdout and 1
> > stderr file instead of two, since the logs are identical for the static
> > OSD and for the tape being played (so I assume it will not help much).
> 
> You appear to have the correct syntax, but the command needs to be run
> as the "root" user to get any useful output for me.
> 
> If you did run it as root and your card is at a device node other
> than /dev/video0, you'll need to add the "-d /dev/videoN" argument to
> the command, where "N" is the proper number for the ivtv card of
> interest.
> 

I will redo it this afternoon, however I am pretty sure I ran it as root
moreover my device is at /dev/video0 and not something else.

> 
> > One more thing: what is the exact color standard for VHS tapes in a
> > PAL-BG land? I know for the TV it is PAL-BG but is it the same for the
> > tape? Maybe specifying it manually would help.
> 
> >From my research the biggest difference between letter standards are
> parameters of the RF modulation.  The letters make less of a difference
> to the baseband video signal which the VCR records and outputs.
> 
> 
> > In the meantime, after I wrote the previous paragraph, I experimented a
> > bit with the PAL/SECAM modes with v4l2-ctl. PAL-B/G/H were better than
> > PAL-D/I/K and much better than PAL-M/Nc/60.
> 
> As it turns out, the baseband video signal for PAL-BDGHI should be the
> same.  PAL-N/Nc certainly has different sync and blanking levels.  I
> can't recall for PAL-M.  PAL-60 has a different, 60 Hz vertical refresh
> rate than the normal 50 Hz for PAL, and is never used over the air.  It
> is extremely unlikely that your VCR would output PAL-60.
> 
> 
> 
> >  The first group gave a
> > non-striped, uniform blue screen (but with horizontal lock problems as
> > for the latter two groups). Moreover, all SECAM types were as good as
> > PAL-B/G/H!
> 
> I think the biggest difference with SECAM over PAL is how the sound is
> modulated in the RF signal.  Maybe the color is done differently too, I
> can't recall the details.

What was a bit suspicious is that sometimes 

   $ v4l2-ctl -s pal-X
   $ v4l2-ctl -S

showed 'SECAM-X' instead of 'PAL-X' where X is B/D/G/H/I/... etc. For
other combinations, the setting and the mode reported back were the same
(as they should be). If needed, I can repeat these steps to spot which
ones behave normally and which ones do not.

> 
> > The next step will be to try to extract as much information as possible
> > from under Windows.
> 
> Also please try to dump the cx25843 registers again.
> 

Do you have a hint how would one dump such registers under Windows? I
have a Hauppauge tweaking utility, but it is mainly for adjusting the
filters and the MPEG encoding parameters.

Regards,

Levente



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