On 3/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
My few cents ... * PPT-Master - You should write "ApacheCon EU 2007" instead of "ApacheCon 2007". There are more (US, Asia...)
Will do * Global Notes
- URLs in the PPT comment area for further information (Ivy Homepage / Manual) would be helpful.
Ok * History
- Some words about user community: how many users/committers, number of downloads ... ==> Ivy is not a niche product
About users and downloads it's difficult to say. I have the numbers of downloads before november 2006, that's all. I will try to see if I can put some meaningful numbers though. * #6: First contact
- Place some comments (in the comment area of PPT) about the properties ivy.jar.url : URL to Ivy-Binary-Download (?) ivy.jar.dir : Where to install Ivy ivy.jar.file : ? ivy.lib.path : Jars needed to run Ivy
Yes, I should add comments on several slides, it's a good point. - Have you tried that target? I cannot follow the steps ... You're
downloading ONE file. Where do the JARs in ivy.jar.dir come from?
It's basically the same as what is done in Ivy build itself, and in the go-ivy example, so it should work. The only file downloaded is ivy.jar, and this is enough. I use a fileset with all jars in the directory in case you also need an optional dependency (like commons-vfs, or oro, ...) * #7: First contact
- I miss a note where Ivy downloads the JARs from ... Ibiblio? Local Repo?
I will add one. It downloads from maven 2 repository (repo1.maven.org/maven2 ) * #14: Where do those files come from?
- "anything can be a repository": provide examples: "filesystem, svn, Maven-Repo, ..."
Good point * #15: Where do those files come from?
- You have to insert the ivyconf.xml ;-) * #17: Modular development with Ivy - Nice animation ;-) * #19: Settings - TODO * #25: Ivy / Maven2 comparison - spell: "if you already use ant": Ant in uppercase
Ok * #26: Future
- Place notes about Mailinglists, Homepage and Issue Tracker
Good idea Very nice! Thanks, and thanks a lot for your 2 cents, they worth much more for me :-) - Xavier Jan
>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >Von: Vishal Vishnoi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Gesendet: Freitag, 9. März 2007 18:43 >An: [email protected] >Betreff: Re: ApacheCon Talk > >I like how you have presented pro's of both (Ant + Ivy) and Maven. > >My personal experience have been that Ivy WORKS :-). I've seen many >projects trying to use Maven and crash and burn..imagine a >build/dependency management system, which is so crippling and brittle. > >My favorite quote from someone using Maven was: > >"/I understood the technology of the project in not time. It took me >ages to figure out how Maven works. Doing simple things is very hard. >It's very buggy and has horrendous documentation/" > > I know you can't state this in your presentation, but just wanted to >let you know that I'm glad Ivy is around for us to use with Ant. > >--Vishal > >Xavier Hanin wrote: >> Thanks to your feedback I've updated the slides to integrate your >> suggestions. I haven't tested if I'll have enough time with those >> slides, it >> may be a bit too long now. >> >> Tell me what you think would be the best to cut down if I >need time. And >> give me your feedback on the changes, especially on Maven / Ivy >> comparison, >> I wan't to be as fair as possible, so I'll welcome any comment. >> >> Thanks for your time, >> >> - Xavier >> >> On 3/9/07, Xavier Hanin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ivy users, >>> >>> As you probablu alreaday know I'll give a talk at next ApacheCon >>> Europe : >>> http://www.eu.apachecon.com/program/talk/47 >>> >>> I've just started preparing the slides, and I would like to >gather some >>> feedback. Obviously without the talk it's more difficult to get an >>> opinion, >>> but anyway, if you have time the very early draft of the slides is >>> available >>> here: >>> >>> >https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ivy/core/trunk/doc/p >resentations/apache-con-2007/slides.ppt >>> >>> >>> Any feedback would be strongly appreciated! >>> >>> - Xavier >>> >> > >_______________________________________________________________________ >Notice: This email message, together with any attachments, may contain >information of BEA Systems, Inc., its subsidiaries and affiliated >entities, that may be confidential, proprietary, copyrighted and/or >legally privileged, and is intended solely for the use of the >individual >or entity named in this message. If you are not the intended recipient, >and have received this message in error, please immediately return this >by email and then delete it. >
