FYI I've checked in a new version of the slides, with the settings example and a speaker's qualification slide to introduce me at the beginning of the talk.
Feel free to send any further feedback, I intend to send these slides to the ApacheCon folks tomorrow. - Xavier On 3/14/07, Xavier Hanin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
For those interested, I've just checked in a new version of the slides updated with some comments and slight review of some slides. I still need to write the slides on the settings and finish to prepare the third demo, but I think I'm not too far to what I'll use in may. - Xavier On 3/12/07, Xavier Hanin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 3/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > > > My few cents ... > > > > * PPT-Master > > - You should write "ApacheCon EU 2007" instead of "ApacheCon 2007". > > There are more (US, Asia...) > > > Will do > > * Global Notes > > - URLs in the PPT comment area for further information (Ivy Homepage / > > Manual) would be helpful. > > > Ok > > * History > > - Some words about user community: how many users/committers, number > > of downloads ... > > ==> Ivy is not a niche product > > > About users and downloads it's difficult to say. I have the numbers of > downloads before november 2006, that's all. I will try to see if I can put > some meaningful numbers though. > > * #6: First contact > > - Place some comments (in the comment area of PPT) about the > > properties > > ivy.jar.url : URL to Ivy-Binary-Download (?) > > ivy.jar.dir : Where to install Ivy > > ivy.jar.file : ? > > ivy.lib.path : Jars needed to run Ivy > > > Yes, I should add comments on several slides, it's a good point. > > - Have you tried that target? I cannot follow the steps ... You're > > downloading ONE file. > > Where do the JARs in ivy.jar.dir come from? > > > It's basically the same as what is done in Ivy build itself, and in the > go-ivy example, so it should work. The only file downloaded is ivy.jar, > and this is enough. I use a fileset with all jars in the directory in case > you also need an optional dependency (like commons-vfs, or oro, ...) > > * #7: First contact > > - I miss a note where Ivy downloads the JARs from ... Ibiblio? Local > > Repo? > > I will add one. It downloads from maven 2 repository ( > repo1.maven.org/maven2) > > * #14: Where do those files come from? > > - "anything can be a repository": provide examples: "filesystem, svn, > > Maven-Repo, ..." > > > Good point > > * #15: Where do those files come from? > > - You have to insert the ivyconf.xml ;-) > > * #17: Modular development with Ivy > > - Nice animation ;-) > > * #19: Settings > > - TODO > > * #25: Ivy / Maven2 comparison > > - spell: "if you already use ant": Ant in uppercase > > > Ok > > * #26: Future > > - Place notes about Mailinglists, Homepage and Issue Tracker > > > Good idea > > Very nice! > > > Thanks, and thanks a lot for your 2 cents, they worth much more for me > :-) > > - Xavier > > Jan > > > > > > > > >-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > >Von: Vishal Vishnoi [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Gesendet: Freitag, 9. März 2007 18:43 > > >An: [email protected] > > >Betreff: Re: ApacheCon Talk > > > > > >I like how you have presented pro's of both (Ant + Ivy) and Maven. > > > > > >My personal experience have been that Ivy WORKS :-). I've seen many > > >projects trying to use Maven and crash and burn..imagine a > > >build/dependency management system, which is so crippling and > > brittle. > > > > > >My favorite quote from someone using Maven was: > > > > > >"/I understood the technology of the project in not time. It took me > > >ages to figure out how Maven works. Doing simple things is very hard. > > > > >It's very buggy and has horrendous documentation/" > > > > > > I know you can't state this in your presentation, but just wanted to > > >let you know that I'm glad Ivy is around for us to use with Ant. > > > > > >--Vishal > > > > > >Xavier Hanin wrote: > > >> Thanks to your feedback I've updated the slides to integrate your > > >> suggestions. I haven't tested if I'll have enough time with those > > >> slides, it > > >> may be a bit too long now. > > >> > > >> Tell me what you think would be the best to cut down if I > > >need time. And > > >> give me your feedback on the changes, especially on Maven / Ivy > > >> comparison, > > >> I wan't to be as fair as possible, so I'll welcome any comment. > > >> > > >> Thanks for your time, > > >> > > >> - Xavier > > >> > > >> On 3/9/07, Xavier Hanin < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Hi Ivy users, > > >>> > > >>> As you probablu alreaday know I'll give a talk at next ApacheCon > > >>> Europe : > > >>> http://www.eu.apachecon.com/program/talk/47 > > >>> > > >>> I've just started preparing the slides, and I would like to > > >gather some > > >>> feedback. Obviously without the talk it's more difficult to get an > > >>> opinion, > > >>> but anyway, if you have time the very early draft of the slides is > > >>> available > > >>> here: > > >>> > > >>> > > >https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ivy/core/trunk/doc/p > > >resentations/apache-con-2007/slides.ppt > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Any feedback would be strongly appreciated! > > >>> > > >>> - Xavier > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >_______________________________________________________________________ > > > > >Notice: This email message, together with any attachments, may > > contain > > >information of BEA Systems, Inc., its > > subsidiaries and affiliated > > >entities, that may be > > confidential, proprietary, copyrighted and/or > > >legally privileged, and is intended solely for the use of the > > >individual > > >or entity named in this message. 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