Hello all,
I am also very sorry to 'hear' this from you Morten. You supported me on my
first (and small, so far) step developing for JabRef.
I hope I can get back and support the community as soon as I deliver my
PhD. I also believe that Oliver Kopp is the right guy to assume the
project, at least temporarily.
You will hear from me soon, I will put some efforts to arrange some
newcomers to join the project
Cheers and long life to JabRef,
Igor Fabio Steinmacher
PhD Candidate - Computer Science @ IME/USP
Faculty in Dept. of Computing at Universidade Tecnológica Federal do Paraná
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 5:42 AM, Joeran Beel <b...@docear.org> wrote:
> I think my email got lost in the moderation queue (it was not immediately
> delivered because I included too many pictures). Hence, here it is again
> without pictures (if you want to see the pictures visit
> www.docear.org/temp/email.pdf )
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Joeran Beel <b...@docear.org>
> Date: Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 10:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Jabref-devel] New leader needed
>
>
> Hello Morten,
> hello JabRef developers,
>
> we are really sorry to hear that you won't be able to lead the JabRef
> development
> any more. We, of course, can't volunteer to lead the JabRef development,
> as we are developing our own reference manager "Docear". However, we
> would like to ask you, Morten, and/or the remaining developers, if you
> would be interested in a closer partnership, or, if you don't find a new
> leader, if you are interested in joining forces?
>
> If you look at JabRef and Docear you will probably realize that Docear is
> rather complex to use and JabRef is missing some important features e.g.
> for PDF management (which Docear offers). We believe that joining Docear
> and JabRef would result in an extremely powerful (yet rather easy to
> use) reference manager. Of course, we already integrated JabRef in Docear but
> it's more like having a mind mapping software (Docear) and a reference
> manager (JabRef) separately, only that they are both shown in the same
> window. Here is, how we think a real "JabEar" could look like:
>
> In our opinion, JabRef needs better integration of PDF annotations.
> Imagine, you created some annotations in a PDF file...
>
> [ http://www.docear.org/temp/email.pdf ]
>
> ... then, they could be displayed in JabRef like this
>
> [ http://www.docear.org/temp/email.pdf ]
>
> Ideally, a click on the annotation in the left panel opens the PDF file at
> the page the annotation was made; you could rename annotations in JabRef,
> and they were automatically renamed in the PDF file, etc.
>
> In addition, we would love to see the PDF and file management in general
> to be improved in JabRef. It would be awesome if JabRef would monitor
> directories for new PDF files, and create new entries in the table
> automatically, ideally based on metadata extracted from the PDF and
> complemented by data retrieved from e.g. Google Scholar (most of this is
> already possible with Docear. Hence, integrating such features in JabRef
> shouldn't be too hard).
>
> Now, the maybe most important step would be that the data structure of
> JabRef is exactly represented in the Docear mind maps. This could look like
> this:
>
> [ http://www.docear.org/temp/email.pdf ]
>
> In the mind map, exactly the same "groups" are available as in JabRef (see
> JabRef screenshot). Each "group" in the mind map contains the same PDFs as
> in JabRef and each PDF contains its annotations as child nodes with the
> BibTeX/Reference data attached. Currently, Docear users need to maintain
> two data structures (their BibTeX file and their mind maps). The new
> "JabEar" would have only one data structure but two different views on it
> (the JabRef-Table view, and the Docear mind-map view). This also means,
> when users change data (e.g. a group name) in the mind map, this would be
> reflected in the BibTeX file, and vice versa. This way, users would have an
> amazing variety of options and the new "JabEar" would satisfy all current
> JabRef and Docear users, and would attract new users that found Docear too
> complex, and JabRef too feature-poor for PDF management.
>
> This was just the overall idea, but if you like it, we would love to
> discuss this in further detail (if you live in Germany or Europe, we might
> even meet in person).
>
> In case, you don't like the idea of merging Docear and JabRef entirely,
> you might be interested in a closer cooperation for some add-ons. Right now
> we are doing a call for donation to improve our PDF metadata retrieval
> but our users are not very generous ;-) http://www.docear
> .org/2014/01/23/call-for-donation-automatic-pdf
> -metadata-extraction-and-renaming/ If you would be interested in such a
> metadata retrieval, you might ask your users to donate too (and then
> include the PDF metadata extraction in JabRef). We will also soon start a
> call for donation for a LibreOffice and OpenOffice Add-On that is similar
> to Docear4Word http://www.docear
> .org/software/add-ons/docear4word/overview/ but for Open/LibreOffice. We
> already found a developer and we believe that such an add-on would be of
> great value for our (and JabRef's) users. If you are interested in a
> common call for donation, we could setup an extra page if you like, or you
> could just start your own call. Of course, the final add on would not
> necessarily have to be called "Docear4LibreOffice" but we could also rename
> it to BibTeX4LibreOffice (this way you could offer it easily on your
> webpage without pointing your users to Docear ;-).
>
> Best,
> Joeran
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Morten Omholt Alver <
> mortenal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I should have sent this e-mail long ago. I've been more or less away from
>> JabRef development for a long time. Partly it's due to being busy with
>> other activities, but partly it's because of a lack of motivation. I've
>> realized that there's not much chance that I'll be returning to full
>> activity. To keep the project going we're going to need someone to take
>> over. I will most likely be interested in contributing to some degree, but
>> I don't want to be responsible for planning and making releases in the
>> future.
>>
>> I don't know if any of you on this list would be interested in taking
>> over. If not, we could perhaps hope to recruit someone through the users
>> list. But I'm starting here since the best solution would be if one of the
>> long term contributors wants to take on the job.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Morten
>>
>>
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