Hi Eur,

Before I go in more details, please answer this question:

Do you think it's fair to allow people to distribute programmed PICs, when
they used jallib and benefit from all our work ? Do you think it's fair ?


Seb
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Sébastien Lelong
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http://sirbot.org



2008/11/3 Eur van Andel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> On 2 Nov 2008, at 23:36 , Sebastien LELONG wrote:
>
> Again: try distributing a PIC without paper and a hex file (not in a
> PIC itself) without space for a 2k attribution!
> For the same reasons as above, this is impossible. If anything on
> this planet is shipped, it is with paper.
> If a hex file is sent in electronic form, it can easily be
> accompagnied by a 2k ASCII file.
>
>
> OK, then the problem is the license is too big ?
>
>
> No it is just fine.
>
> So, what about something like this: "redistribution of binaries must
> reproduce
> this copyright notice. If not possible because too big, it should at least
>
> mention the jallib website", where people will find this notice."
>
>
> Make a specific execption for distribution in burned/flashed PICs, because
> that is Wouters problem.
>
> Is this impossible too ? If you agree (and Eur) with this, great ! I hope
> you'll notice this completely different from removing the clause itself.
>
>
> Also, the mentioning of the jallib site itself inside a PIC is not
> straightforward. Should that be in ASCII? In Flash or EEPROM?
> If in ASCII, should that be in the form of RETLW X instructions, where X is
> the ASCII code?
>
> Nobody can read that.
>
> Again, the best way is to make an execption for hex file distribution and
> PIC distribution.
>
> We should add a clause that if anything else is distributed, like email,
> zip files, paper, etc. then attribution is mandatory.
>
>
> Here is an example:
>
> Copyright (c) 2008, jallib respective authors,
> http://jallib.googlecode.com
> All rights reserved.
>
> Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
> modification,
> are permitted provided that the following conditions are met:
>
>    * Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
> notice,
>      this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
>    * Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
> notice,
>      this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the
> documentation
>      and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
>    * Redistributions in the form of hex files or programmed PIC
> microcontrollers do not
>       need to include the above copyright notice, this list of conditions
>       and the following disclaimer. If there is accompanying material that
> can easily
>       contain he above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the
> following disclaimer,
>       for instance, but not limited to: paper, text files, emails,
> the above copyright notice,
>       this list of conditions and the following disclaimer must be
> included.
>    * Neither the name of jallib nor the names of its contributors may be
> used to
>      endorse or promote products derived from this software without
> specific prior
>      written permission.
>
> THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS AND CONTRIBUTORS "AS IS"
> AND
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> IMPLIED
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> POSSIBILITY
> OF SUCH DAMAGE.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Seb
> --
> Sébastien LELONG
> http://www.sirloon.net
> http://sirbot.org
>
>
>
>
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