I feel the need to contribute on this thread.

The more experienced, or more involved with JAL developement may wish to
take note or ignore this post.

I am new to JAL and PIC programming but not to Programming or digital
electronics.

It is safe to say that I would never have  made the jump to PIC programming
without JAL or Bert's book.

Through Bert's book, I have moved from blinking an LED to minor intelligent
motor control (not using PWM actually!!) to serially interfacing a GSM modem
with a printer within the space of about 6 weeks!

Not bad for a beginner!  But the issue remains of the non-standardisation of
the language at present.

I have ( as no doubt many other before me ) made the move from Berts library
examples and tutorials to the Jallib library files and structure. The
developement skills and knowledge of senior members of this group are
incredible and I admire their intellect and commitment.

Converting code from examples in Bert's book to Jallib friendly code can be
annoying and frustrating especially for those new to PIC programming (like
myself sometimes!!)

I do feel that this group could be a little more friendly toward the
newcomers seeking advise and guidance.

Rich G-G

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf
Of Joep Suijs
Sent: 15 July 2009 19:38
To: [email protected]
Subject: [jallib] Fwd: FW: starterspack en jallib


Hi guys,

I shared our idea's of the 'bertlib to jallib conversion document' with
Bert.
What I learned was:

- The starterspack is free for non-commercial use.
- The examples from the book are downloadable, but can't be used or
republished due to IP limitaions.
- Encloses is a 'superprogram' that Bert uses for regression testing
of his starterspack. We can use this program but he would appreciate
if we mention he is the source.
- He has a positive attitude to the conversion document initiatieve,
won't contribute but does want to add a link to it from his website.
- He thinks that the main difference between his pack and jallib is
the use of defaults for 12 pics.

If Bert is right on the point, we might provide a file with the all
defaults of the jallib equivalents of bert's libs and maybe also a
list of the approperate includes. This would give a 2-step transfer:
1. include the super-include and change all function calls from bert
to jal format.
2. move the required part of the super-include to you program and
remove the super include itself.

I'll try to find some time to see what it takes to get the regression
test compiled with jallib...

Joep




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