> Putting MAX232 & friends on a breadboard is too complex IMO. Now I have a
USB-to-serial converter, I'll use it on tutorials, instead of a whole
main
board.

of course there can be exceptions like this one. I also use a small
board for max232. Since this will be needed in quite a few of the
projects, we can make a max232 how-to, and mention that a board can be
purchased on the net.

>(and again, nothing to pay from getting schematics & PCB from my site).
everything needed in the book should be in the book

matt

On Sep 25, 5:09 am, Sebastien Lelong <[email protected]>
wrote:
> > book cover will be either some text + an image, or maybe just an
> > image. Image in png format. I will supply the image, it can be edited
> > easily with .png
>
> Some text has to be kept in textual format: year, authors, even title and
> subtitle. I've been able to add an image, and even a background image
> (repeated in tile). Depending on what you want, I may be able to help.
>
>
>
> > >Did you also tried to write few things with it ? Using which editor ? I
> > used
> > Serna, multiplatform, works quite nice.
>
> > I am trying Serna, and I see there is a steep learning curve, I'll go
> > to the tutorials. I don't think new users will ever be able to add
> > pages to the book, we will have to do it for them. However, the end
> > result is awsome, and I see the html is good for our website (this is
> > why I am now interested in this book)
>
> I think it's first good to look at one tutorial, say GP2D02, to see how
> sections, titles, image, etc... are done. It's then always the same, so I
> guess it's not that hard... There also few tricks I'll explain in more
> details if we go with DITA (xref pointing to DITA file or other type of
> files, image break/inline, ...)
>
>
>
> > Another big issue I have about this book is weather or not we are
> > allowed to sell or promote our own products within it. Already I see
> > some at I2C part 3. As a newbie, i would look at that section and say
> > "I can't make that becuase I have to buy the board". If we do not
> > limit these products, the book will end out to be a big "sales pitch"
> > instead of free documentation.
>
> I agree 100%. I did use on my board (free & open source) because I needed to
> use serial. I hesitated a lot before putting photos & links (really) but by
> the time I decided to use it, readers have to know where it comes from.
>
> My suggestion is that all projects should be based on a breadboard,
>
> > unless a PCB is required because of speed limitations. If a PCB is
> > needed, there should be a schematic diagram of the PCB (as well as the
> > PCB layout if possible). A new user should be able to read and
> > understand the projects without thinking they have to buy something
> > from one of us.
>
> Putting MAX232 & friends on a breadboard is too complex IMO. Now I have a
> USB-to-serial converter, I'll use it on tutorials, instead of a whole main
> board.
>
> (and again, nothing to pay from getting schematics & PCB from my site).
>
> > All other projects that require a product, or have an image of a
> > product should be in it's own section near the end of the book.
>
> > Jaluino can have it's own section, I do believe jaluino should be in
> > the book since it jallib group works on it together, however it should
> > not be mixed in with the other projects.
>
> I consider Jaluino independent, one layer above the whole. Jal code won't
> actually be the same ("include jaluino" for instance, defining pin aliases,
> making things easier). Tutorials in this book are for jallib users, still a
> Jaluino user (if I'm not alone) could use them.
>
>
>
> > I suppose we will need to make rules for the book, we can work out
> > details like this later. If we write the book correctly, we may even
> > be able to publish the book someday!
>
> Well I think this kind of things should be taken into account as earlier as
> possible, as we did with JSG. So, the Tutorial Style Guide (TSG...) could
> begin like this:
>
> Rule #1: don't put and promote your own products when describing a tutorial.
> If really needed, this product has to be free and open source. Readers don't
> have to think they'll have to buy something from us. At most, they should be
> able to build it for free.
>
> I add these ones I consider very important, please advise
>
> Rule #2: put photos, and when relevant videos. It's very important for
> readers to figure out how it looks like for real. Showing detailed photos
> will make being able to check they have quite the same.
>
> Rule #3: put a schematic as needed, even if very simple. It gives an
> overview of the project, and readers will constantly refer to it.
>
> Cheers,
> Seb
> --
> Sébastien Lelonghttp://www.sirloon.nethttp://sirbot.org
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