Hi guys,

I understand Joep wants to keep control over the document (for now if I
understand). But I hope it'll be opensource (and there are opensource
license you can use for this purpose). As Matt said, I hope the time will
come when we'll be able to DITAfied it to include it in all the process. We
may provide one book, or two different books, I don't have strong opinion as
long as there are independent.

About samples, there are some specific used with the tutorial book. This
code remains in a "dita/.../.../code" directory. Joep, you could do the same
(in the future, when DITAfied :)).


Cheers,
Seb


2010/2/25 mattschinkel <[email protected]>

> > > Each tutorial takes the user by there hand assuming that they did the
> > > "getting started".
> >
> > I have to agree with you Matt, the Tutorials are taking the user by the
> > hand, the same way Bert's Book did.  The problem, as I see it, is that
> > the Tutorials are doing things to show how an application that the
> > Tutorial writers are interested in.  That's why I didn't learn much from
> > Bert's book.  I had no interest in 'any' of the projects it covered.
>
> The startersguide that I saw before had some specific applications
> such as PWM which a reader may not be interested in. It is the same.
>
> Hopefully our tutorial book will have a great range of tutorials, and
> everyone will be interested in at least one topic. All new users will
> be interested in getting started. It is not about "tutorials the
> writers are interested in". I am actually not interested in servo's,
> but I see many people who are, so I created a lib and I will later
> create a tutorial. I believe servo's are a hot topic. It is fun to do
> things like this for others.
>
> > On the other hand I found the first Tutorial by Joep and Toon very
> > educational.  It covered the language use in accomplishing a 'task' not
> > a useless, to me, project. That might just be me though.
>
> The tutorial book is "step-by-step" in the beginning (getting started -
> > blink a led -> serial port), as it should be, these are topics all
> new users should be interested in. If your step-by-step method is
> better then ours, we can replace it or create a new chapter. One of my
> idea's for the tutorial book was to create tasks/homework for the user
> so they may get experience, but I have not had time to implement this.
>
> I am simply suggesting one completed book with "starter guide" +
> "Tutorials".
>
> > I'm sorry if I offended anyone.  That is not my intent.
> You do not offend anyone with your words, honesty is needed and
> appreciated. I may offend others at times although I do not mean to, I
> just state my thoughts. If we are all honest with eachother, we will
> be happier about the final product.
>
> Matt.
>
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